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  • j.razor
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    You can't really trust some of these promoters.

    They are always trying to get over on the fighters, even though though the fighters are the ones who put their health and well being on the line and they are the ones that fans come to see.

    No one is paying money to go look at Kathy Duva's old ass. That's for sure.
    I have said it multiple times....Thank you for saying it as well.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #32
      Originally posted by SceneBoxer
      Yep you have to take risks in order to get rewards. Kov is the higher risk, higher reward compared to Bivol.
      Not really, especially if the Kovalev offer was made on even shorter money than originally offered, as Barrera states here.

      The Main Events deal seems to be expiring or almost expired; if Barrera beats Bivol (a fighter that no one really knows how good he is yet), he stands with the full WBA light heavyweight championship and Duva better put some respect on his name.

      If she keeps with the bull****, Barrera has places to go (GYM/Haymon currently control two other belts at the weight, so getting a call from Al Haymon wouldn't be unheard of)

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        #33
        Originally posted by j.razor
        So in other words you don't like the fact that the cat is out the bag....lol....kovalev is a broke fighter thanks to Andre.
        When talking about Bivol vs Barrera and Barrera hyping things up with fake news about Bivol not testing, you bring up Kovalev and Ward for what reasons exactly?

        Because latest fact is that Ward’s body is too broken for elite boxing, Ward is retired, and Kovalev is world champ...

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          #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Not really, especially if the Kovalev offer was made on even shorter money than originally offered, as Barrera states here.

          The Main Events deal seems to be expiring or almost expired; if Barrera beats Bivol (a fighter that no one really knows how good he is yet), he stands with the full WBA light heavyweight championship and Duva better put some respect on his name.

          If she keeps with the bull****, Barrera has places to go (GYM/Haymon currently control two other belts at the weight, so getting a call from Al Haymon wouldn't be unheard of)
          So what if this offer was lower than the previous one? Barrera is not a draw, plus he had his chance, he refused, now he is offered less.

          Just like Rigo refusing 500k to fight Loma at 126 in 2015, well now he fought at 130 for 400k. Too bad, should have taken the offer when it was on the table...

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          • thabanga510
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            #35
            Duva is dirty, these promoters try and rip the fighters off every chance they get.

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              #36
              Of course it's less now, because Kovalev is now the champion and he can now **** you. Despite the offer, it's still more than he's getting against Bivol and Kovalev is a more established name that would raise Barrera's profile.

              If he loses to Bivol, he's not getting a fight with Kovalev ever again.

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              • Scipio2009
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                #37
                Originally posted by Vlad_
                So what if this offer was lower than the previous one? Barrera is not a draw, plus he had his chance, he refused, now he is offered less.

                Just like Rigo refusing 500k to fight Loma at 126 in 2015, well now he fought at 130 for 400k. Too bad, should have taken the offer when it was on the table...
                Barrera bet on himself; if he steps in with this super prospect and schools him, he walks away with the full WBA 175lb title; with the Duva deal seemingly being up, if she still doesn't want to pay him fair, he can walk and see who else would pay him fair.

                He loses the fight, and Duva doesn't pay him anyway (he fights well, and there's no doubt in my mind that Haymon calls his camp with an opportunity to rebuild).

                Rigondeax was a "35 year old" man fighting at 122lbs; when he was physically peaked, he was likely a 118lb fighter who could make 115lb if need be. Lomachenko is peaking as a 130lb fighter who could make 126lbs if he absolutely had to.

                Rigo, after seeing the setup of Lomachenko not giving him even 124lbs or a rehydration clause, walked and looked for other opportunities. Blitzed ****ens, got caught in the Moises Flores nonsense, finally got the fight and had some flukiness muddle his win, and started to really see his window closing.

                Lomachenko fight gets put back on the table, and Rigondeax takes the opportunity (with seemingly nothing else to weigh against it); fight happens, Rigo shows up near 130, Lomachenko shows up near 140, and things go about as some rooting for Rigo dreaded (skills are the same, but Lomachenko's size, activity, and not walking onto anything, nullifies Rigo's game).

                Once there was no concession even considered for the size difference, Rigo was screwed either way; by passing on the original offer, Rigo got a chance to impress against ****ens, impress against Flores, and try to build something. Things didn't work out the way he wanted, but that's the risk you take.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #38
                  Quack quack quack.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Barrera bet on himself; if he steps in with this super prospect and schools him, he walks away with the full WBA 175lb title; with the Duva deal seemingly being up, if she still doesn't want to pay him fair, he can walk and see who else would pay him fair.

                    He loses the fight, and Duva doesn't pay him anyway (he fights well, and there's no doubt in my mind that Haymon calls his camp with an opportunity to rebuild).

                    Rigondeax was a "35 year old" man fighting at 122lbs; when he was physically peaked, he was likely a 118lb fighter who could make 115lb if need be. Lomachenko is peaking as a 130lb fighter who could make 126lbs if he absolutely had to.

                    Rigo, after seeing the setup of Lomachenko not giving him even 124lbs or a rehydration clause, walked and looked for other opportunities. Blitzed ****ens, got caught in the Moises Flores nonsense, finally got the fight and had some flukiness muddle his win, and started to really see his window closing.

                    Lomachenko fight gets put back on the table, and Rigondeax takes the opportunity (with seemingly nothing else to weigh against it); fight happens, Rigo shows up near 130, Lomachenko shows up near 140, and things go about as some rooting for Rigo dreaded (skills are the same, but Lomachenko's size, activity, and not walking onto anything, nullifies Rigo's game).

                    Once there was no concession even considered for the size difference, Rigo was screwed either way; by passing on the original offer, Rigo got a chance to impress against ****ens, impress against Flores, and try to build something. Things didn't work out the way he wanted, but that's the risk you take.
                    Fair post for the most part. But Loma/Rigo skills are on two very distinct levels. Had Rigo had the skills he would have been able to do a fair amount considering he has a 3 inch reach advantage. As the smaller lighter boxer, Rigo was supposed to be quicker, and his lightning fast counter left was supposed to break Loma’s jaw. But Rigo did sweet **** all.

                    As for Barrera, yeah he’s trying his luck. If he wins the Bivol fight, he will have a belt and leverage for a payday. If he loses, it takes him back a fair amount in his career.

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                    • My Low Place
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      Just so you know B-Hop was the one trying to fight Adonis but Adonis didn't want it so in the end he ended up fighting kovalev....B-Hop also tried to get lil g but they also didn't take it.
                      lol go read about how bhop took less money to fight kov..he called rick reno right away complimenting himself on being a chest player lol...talkin about he fooled team stevenson! lol this isnt fooling...this is boxing...he refused to fight fo lineage and got his tail kicked by the #3 man instead...wat an idiot!
                      he said kovalev is white and like kelly pavlik...shameful

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