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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #101
    Originally posted by The tucker
    This sounds like Holyfield just wanted to throw shade. The only knock I will say Floyd has is that he does not have that one big fight that people will look back on and say wow this was one for the books. All his big fights where sort of let downs.
    Yeah, but maybe, because he was too good for them all. To me, that explains it.

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    • Tuavale
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      #102
      The Real Deal ain't wrong. Floyd ducked and dodged aplenty.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #103
        Floyd didn't care for the IBF and WBO all his career, and when he won them, he vacated them. These belts are garbage but, unfortunately, they seem a necessary evil.

        Do one belt per division. Yeah, okay, I know!

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        • Raggamuffin
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          #104
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
          Former undisputed cruiserweight and heavyweight world champion Evander Holyfield considers Floyd Mayweather Jr. to be a great fighter - but he also points out that the retired pound-for-pound king missed the boat by not making attempts to become an undisputed champion. Mayweather won titles at super featherweight, lightweight, junior welterweight, welterweight and junior middleweight - but he was never the undisputed champion in any of the five divisions.
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          I only count one belt and that's the lineal belt meaning which ever organization recognizes the lineal champion, that's who I'm riding with. And when Floyd fought I think he WBC recognized the lineal champion. One title, one champion. Holy has an opinion but he's wrong in this case. Whatever belt recognizes the lineal champion that's what belt I ride with. Not everyone can do what Bud did.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #105
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Individual titles but never unified. He was part unified at welterweight only.

            We can speculate all day and all week about why he never got a great fighter in the ring in their prime but it never happened and as the shot caller in the sport for half of your career that raises a question. Even the top level hall of fame caliber (but not quite great) guys like Mosley (about 8 or 9 years past it), De La Hoya (6-7 years), Cotto (3-4 years) were not really near their primes either.
            Ok but he won the WBC from ODH and the WBA from Cotto both @154.

            It's not speculation, it's fact. All documented. The thing is when people don't like Mayweather, they just leave out the facts and pretend he started boxing post ODH in 2007 and was the cash cow his whole career.

            The facts show that as soon as he became the cash cow the guys that repeatedly said no began to say yes.

            Again, just give the man his due.

            Note: Lets project 5 years down the road when Tank gets around to fighting Loma. When that happens, you and others will not leave out the fact Floyd/Tank refused to fight Loma at one point. That is completely understandable and fair. So just do the same here with Floyd.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-09-2018, 11:20 AM.

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            • methodcal
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              #106
              Originally posted by Butch.McRae
              Brain damage is a real thing people. Floyd won every belt at 147 at some point in his career and there's not one guy anybody would argue could've beat him at that weight. He would've beat Brook running away.

              Holyfield also thought Manny won lol that ESPN interview after the fight was hilarious. I like Holyfield as a fighter, but he needs to let that hatred go. Nobody is putting him ahead of Floyd on any all-time great list. He knows that.
              Plus he blew all that money away. They don't hate on floyd for his accomplishments...mostly cause they can't. That $$$$$ is the reason.

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              • methodcal
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                #107
                Originally posted by Cigar
                Preach, Evander!! Amen. You're exactly right, champ.
                Lol...... Who did he beat to unify and become undisputed?

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                • methodcal
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by yngwie
                  Of his generation And yeah he was, but i can't believe that people are dis*****g a FACT.
                  Think you're listening wrong. We know he never held all the belts at one time. That's EH trying to discredit floyd, when all EH did was beat BD for the belts as he BD beat MT.

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                  • Boksfan
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                    #109
                    Ok he wasn't undisputed and has a fake record 50-0 for beating an amateur, so what? At least he has his cash, nobody cares about sport any more.

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                    • methodcal
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by SonnyboyReturns
                      Forget about undisputed Floyd never beat a great fighter in his prime, so Holyfield should have mentioned that instead of talking about meaningless alphabet belts.

                      What matters is who you took the belt from not just that you got it.
                      Evander son right here i think....

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