So what's tank excuse for not facing Loma?

[Floyd is TBE]

I have never seen the boxing community obsess over a B level fighter the way have Davis. There are bigger payer fights for Loma, there are better fights to enhance his enhance his legacy, Davis is not even in his prime or a world champion. If Davis wasn't Floyd's protege no one would even be talking about this fight. But there are a lot of ******s out there that think beating Davis is the equivalent of beating Floyd by proxy. I'm not even a Davis fan after he missed weight and embarrassed himself on the McGoober undercard.

[travestyny]

I have never seen the boxing community obsess over a B level fighter the way have Davis. There are bigger payer fights for Loma, there are better fights to enhance his enhance his legacy, Davis is not even in his prime or a world champion. If Davis wasn't Floyd's protege no one would even be talking about this fight. But there are a lot of ******s out there that think beating Davis is the equivalent of beating Floyd by proxy. I'm not even a Davis fan after he missed weight and embarrassed himself on the McGoober undercard.

And that's a great point. I don't think anyone is calling for this fight if Tank Davis was promoted by Roc Nation.

[KillaMane26]

Tank would Take the fight hell off pride alone. But Floyd outside looking in, he wouldn't dare let Loma ruin him right now. Everybody ain't Gary Russell

[GhostofDempsey]

Sure, it can be labeled a duck, but what I'm asking is, is the reason justifiable? None of those guys have the pedigree of Loma, bro. Are you being serious?

But that isn't what Davis is saying. He isn't saying Loma is a great fighter who is just too much for him right now. What he is saying is that he is looking for a fight with someone who draws better. Those were his exact words.

“I believe that [the] Lomachenko [fight] will happen eventually,” Davis said. “It’s just at a right time. I believe that Lomachenko, not to say nothing bad about a fighter, but Lomachenko’s still fighting at MGM, that hold 3,400 [fans]. “You know, we’re looking to fight people that’s bringing a lot more than 3,400."

So first it was age, then it was "he needs to rematch Salido first" now it's attendance numbers. And the never ending excuses will continue, mark my words. Davis will avoid Loma at all costs, regardless if Loma fills venues of 12K or more, Davis will find another excuse not to fight him.

Davis' candle will burn out soon enough. He can only pad his record with B-rate opposition for so long until it all comes crashing down, just like Broner.

[travestyny]

Again, Tank has plenty of experience to fight Loma.

Bottom line, Davis is ducking Loma.

Just a quick check. Did you give Mayweather full credit for Canelo? My guess is no. Maybe it's foolish of me to ask is it because you feel he drained him, or was Canelo too green? Perhaps both.

Hmm. See this is exactly what I mean, man.


Here you are saying that Canelo was too green for Floyd, and mocking him for it. You also try to justify Canelo being too green......BY POINTING TO HIS AMATEUR RECORD!

Floyd beat a green Canelo.

Nelo had 42 fights when he fought Floyd but you call that green?

Look at the above question, and how you justified it below!!!!

Canelo had a very short amateur career, somewhere between 20-40 fights, not over 100 like Floyd. He was basically using the early part of his pro career to hone his skills. His biggest win prior to Floyd was Trout, who we know is not much more than a gatekeeper. If you weren't such an ignoramus you'd be able to comprehend that. But keep defending this overrated clown to the death, it makes for good entertainment.

Canelo's amateur record was 44-2.

Mayweather's amateur record was 84-8


Professonal Bouts:

Canelo 43(42-0-1)

Mayweather 44 (44-0)


Canelo was 23 and he stepped up to fight. Had only 1 less professional fight than Mayweather and 46 less amateur bouts. You are saying he was too green.

Tank is 23, has 7 more professional fights but against far less quality opponents, and 176 less amateur bouts, and you are saying he has enough experience.

Since their professional bout experience are quite even for Mayweather and Canelo at that time, and you seemingly refuse to consider the quality of professional opponents in the convo about Davis/Loma, that means you give a whole lot of weight to Davis simply having 7 more professional fights. But you justified Canelo being green by pointing out his lesser amateur experience.

Canelo was also a champion. You said no excuses for Davis because he was a champion.

Also you point out that Canelo's biggest win was Trout. Who was Davis' biggest win? Who was Loma's biggest win?

Doesn't this seem warped to you? You can make the argument that at least Canelo fought, but would you have said Canelo was ducking Floyd if they hadn't fought, knowing that you are on record saying Canelo was green due at least to some extent to his lesser amateur experience?


Why was Canelo green, but Davis is not? And how does this allow you to give any credit to Loma if he got this fight and defeated Tank?

[travestyny]

But that isn't what Davis is saying. He isn't saying Loma is a great fighter who is just too much for him right now. What he is saying is that he is looking for a fight with someone who draws better. Those were his exact words.

“I believe that [the] Lomachenko [fight] will happen eventually,” Davis said. “It’s just at a right time. I believe that Lomachenko, not to say nothing bad about a fighter, but Lomachenko’s still fighting at MGM, that hold 3,400 [fans]. “You know, we’re looking to fight people that’s bringing a lot more than 3,400."

So first it was age, then it was "he needs to rematch Salido first" now it's attendance numbers. And the never ending excuses will continue, mark my words. Davis will avoid Loma at all costs, regardless if Loma fills venues of 12K or more, Davis will find another excuse not to fight him.

Davis' candle will burn out soon enough. He can only pad his record with B-rate opposition for so long until it all comes crashing down, just like Broner.

Well I agree with you on this one. I think that is an excuse to explain why he is avoiding the fight, but again, I don't think that is the point. Maybe he needs to tell himself that to sleep well at night. Floyd already told us what I thought was an honest answer for why they are ducking the fight for now.

I think the reason that the fight is being avoided at this point is justifiable. He's too green, bro. If Canelo was too green for Mayweather, this dude is definitely too green for Loma!!! Don't you think so?

[DumpkinsPlus5]

It's simple: Davis is a coward with no balls. Isn't that what people wanna hear?

Pretty much. OP, playing dumb like he doesn't know what the situation is, but he's already exposed himself in his replies.

[GhostofDempsey]

Hmm. See this is exactly what I mean, man.


Here you are saying that Canelo was too green for Floyd, and mocking him for it. You also try to justify Canelo being too green......BY POINTING TO HIS AMATEUR RECORD!






Look at the above question, and how you justified it below!!!!





Canelo's amateur record was 44-2.

Mayweather's amateur record was 84-8


Professonal Bouts:

Canelo 43(42-0-1)

Mayweather 44 (44-0)


Canelo was 23 and he stepped up to fight. Had only 1 less professional fight than Mayweather and 46 less amateur bouts. You are saying he was too green.

Tank is 23, has 7 more professional fights but against far less quality opponents, and 176 less amateur bouts, and you are saying he has enough experience.

Since their professional bout experience are quite even for Mayweather and Canelo at that time, and you seemingly refuse to consider the quality of professional opponents in the convo about Davis/Loma, that means you give a whole lot of weight to Davis simply having 7 more professional fights. But you justified Canelo being green by pointing out his lesser amateur experience.

Canelo was also a champion. You said no excuses for Davis because he was a champion.

Also you point out that Canelo's biggest win was Trout. Who was Davis' biggest win? Who was Loma's biggest win?

Doesn't this seem warped to you? You can make the argument that at least Canelo fought, but would you have said Canelo was ducking Floyd if they hadn't fought, knowing that you are on record saying Canelo was green due at least to some extent to his lesser amateur experience?


Why was Canelo green, but Davis is not? And how does this allow you to give any credit to Loma if he got this fight and defeated Tank?

Earlier in your argument you say that amateur fights matter. Loma has twice as many as Davis, so he holds a distinct advantage. Yet, you don't think this applies to Floyd/Canelo. Floyd had at least twice as many amateur fights as Canelo. No one knows for certain his amateur record. Some say about 20 fights while others say 40+. Regardless, his best win prior to Mayweather was Trout. That's a big step up to go from Trout to Floyd, especially at a catch weight.

Loma isn't asking for catch weights. He has less pro fights than Davis, and Davis has already spewed out some very weak excuses. None of which acknowledge that Loma is just too good of a fighter for him. They all circle around trivial nonsense like he's not a draw or he needs to rematch Salido. Those are lame ass excuses man.

[travestyny]

Earlier in your argument you say that amateur fights matter. Loma has twice as many as Davis, so he holds a distinct advantage. Yet, you don't think this applies to Floyd/Canelo. Floyd had at least twice as many amateur fights as Canelo. No one knows for certain his amateur record. Some say about 20 fights while others say 40+. Regardless, his best win prior to Mayweather was Trout. That's a big step up to go from Trout to Floyd, especially at a catch weight.

Loma isn't asking for catch weights. He has less pro fights than Davis, and Davis has already spewed out some very weak excuses. None of which acknowledge that Loma is just too good of a fighter for him. They all circle around trivial nonsense like he's not a draw or he needs to rematch Salido. Those are lame ass excuses man.

Oh come on, bro. You were asked why you consider Canelo green and you specifically mentioned his amateur record.

You're now comparing 397-221 amateur fights....to 92-46 amateur fights. Everything I've seen about Canelo says he has 46 amateur fights. Canelo had 43 professional fights compared to 44 for Floyd. He had stepped up in competition but indeed it may have been too soon.

You are completely ignoring that Tank's 7 more professional fights don't amount to much when you look at the caliber of his competition.

You said yourself Canelo's best comp was Trout to that point. Who is Davis' best comp and who is Loma's? Come on, man.

And you're assuming about my stance on the Canelo/Mayweather fight. I've definitely seen improvement from Canelo since that fight. I don't think he was too green to take on the challenge, however. I believe he should have waited but I wouldn't say he was rushed too soon, nor had I heard anyone else saying he was rushing too soon at that time for the most part. First it was Mayweather was ducking him. Then after the loss, it became a cherry pick (not saying that was from you. Just in general).

I'm just failing to see how you say he was too green, yet you think Davis is ripe.

Davis against Loma at this time is in a far bigger hole than Canelo vs. Floyd with respect to experience, in my opinion. Do you agree with that?

[Death_Adder]

He's a walking vagina.

Hence his new name Vagina Davis. When he talks it's a queef.