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  • Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita View Post
    Is it Floyd’s fault that Thomas Dulorme cant live up to expectations? He cant perform simple as that and of you aint putting in work, you aint getting paid.

    You think these promoters are jesus fkin christ or something?

    Dulorme is having to drive Taxi cuz he sucks.
    Yet Dulorme was a top ten fighter in his stable..you can't criticize other promoters when your guys are earning less than their fighters.

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    • Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
      how does floyd tarnish his legacy by making statements like this?

      is the fighter you speak of one of the top 3 attractions in one of the biggest promotional companies in boxing? we all know floyds promotional company is bottom rung.....TR isnt.....TR has been pushing loma hard with big dates and headlining events

      is this uber driver on an even playing field? of course not....theres context

      floyd says some wild stuff here and there....but when he talk about bob he aint lying....look at what happened when floyd got out from under him......look at the way pacs **** has turned out...if it werent for floyd and that fight manny would prob be broke....
      How does he tarnish? He is drawing more attention to his attention seeking nature than to his legacy he just completed. We live in a world where entertainers get asked "what have you done lately" and what he's done lately is this. Let's not act like we don't live in a short attention span society. He's not lying about bob...ok show me Mayweather Promotions top ten fighter purses and compare them to Top Ranks top ten fighters..if he's not lying then the number wouldn't lie either right.

      Out from under him? Let's not pretend like Floyd wasn't getting paid pretty well under top rank for the numbers he was putting up at the time. The real issue he had with Bob was over a f'ing poster on the side of a casino he wanted and didn't get. All this Floyd being a great business mastermind..how come NOBODY credits Al Haymon with all of that since that's who actually did/does the work outside of the ring? I'll say it one last time, Haymon needed Floyd as a carrot for his investors and Floyd needed someone to get his business right... It's the same thing with Fiddy, he ain't never negotiate a deal in his life himself but he's the businessman? Vitamin Water was all Chris Lighty and Steve Stoute but nobody ever credits them for making him rich. We need to start paying attention to who actually makes the moves, not who announces them.

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      • Mayweather the promoter shouldn't be taken seriously.
        This guy made a lot of promises, which included hiring Schaefer.
        He chose to build a strip bar in Vegas, instead.
        His mind is not really into the boxing business.
        He's cheap as a promoter.
        So I won't even take him seriously on any swipe he makes at long time rivals.
        People just have to ignore him.
        Strip bars are his specialities now.

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        • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
          Let's not pretend like Floyd wasn't getting paid pretty well under top rank for the numbers he was putting up at the time. The real issue he had with Bob was over a f'ing poster on the side of a casino he wanted and didn't get.

          You do realize that Floyd accused Bob Arum of not paying him the money he was owed and wound up suing Top Rank, right?

          Mayweather filed a lawsuit against Arum on March 7 in Clark County (Nev.) District Court, claiming he is owed money from his two pay-per-view fights with his former promoter, against Arturo Gatti in 2005 and Zab Judah in 2006

          Arum counters that his company, Top Rank Inc., does owe Mayweather money, but that the Grand Rapids boxing champion owes the company even more, so payment was withheld. He said he plans to countersue Mayweather and other unspecified individuals involved with the boxer..

          I don't think you can be considered getting "paid well" if you're not paid what you're promised, and the other party admits that they're taking your money. This beef definitely wasn't all over a poster board.

          Top Rank also told Mikey Garcia that he should renew his contract for the same exact deal as before instead of renegotiating. When he refused, they told him that they would just sit him. So he sat out.

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            You do realize that Floyd accused Bob Arum of not paying him the money he was owed and wound up suing Top Rank, right?




            I don't think you can be considered getting "paid well" if you're not paid what you're promised, and the other party admits that they're taking your money. This beef definitely wasn't all over a poster board.

            Top Rank also told Mikey Garcia that he should renew his contract for the same exact deal as before instead of renegotiating. When he refused, they told him that they would just sit him. So he sat out.
            Dude the issues with Bob date back to the Castillo fight, he's on video talking about it. So is Roger. They were forced to fight Castillo whom they did not want to fight and that started it all. You jumped ahead in the timeline here. You literally jumped 3 whole years from the beginning of the issue. I really wish people would spend more time looking at ALL of the facts and not just what they believe to be from hearsay or what is convenient to the argument. Arum started out overpaying Floyd, you can go back and look at that, his first ten fights where the average boxer was making a fraction of what Floyd averaged. Hell even Broner has gone on record saying it took him over a dozen fights to earn a purse like the one Floyd got for his first fight. I know Bob is a lawyer, ***ish, and a promoter but people make this guy out to be the devil in the flesh when while he's done some shady shhh yet the three biggest names in the past 20 years all came from his shop. It's like the rapper who complains about a deal they signed, who else was going to make Floyd a star? Nobody else in boxing in that era was giving up the kind of dollars Arum was to lighter weight fighters and most definitely wasn't nobody looking to make headlining stars the way he was.

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            • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
              Dude the issues with Bob date back to the Castillo fight, he's on video talking about it. So is Roger. They were forced to fight Castillo whom they did not want to fight and that started it all. You jumped ahead in the timeline here. You literally jumped 3 whole years from the beginning of the issue. I really wish people would spend more time looking at ALL of the facts and not just what they believe to be from hearsay or what is convenient to the argument. Arum started out overpaying Floyd, you can go back and look at that, his first ten fights where the average boxer was making a fraction of what Floyd averaged. Hell even Broner has gone on record saying it took him over a dozen fights to earn a purse like the one Floyd got for his first fight. I know Bob is a lawyer, ***ish, and a promoter but people make this guy out to be the devil in the flesh when while he's done some shady shhh yet the three biggest names in the past 20 years all came from his shop. It's like the rapper who complains about a deal they signed, who else was going to make Floyd a star? Nobody else in boxing in that era was giving up the kind of dollars Arum was to lighter weight fighters and most definitely wasn't nobody looking to make headlining stars the way he was.
              Think about it this way, bro. When Mayweather was negotiating renewing his contract with Arum and Top Rank, he asked for 20 million for De La Hoya, 10 million for Hatton, and 10 million for Cotto. Bob Arum declined.

              Mayweather wound up getting 25 million for De La Hoya, 11 million for Hatton, and albeit later, 32 million for Cotto.

              He made 28 million more. Wouldn't you be mad at someone who could have stopped you from making $28 million dollars for the fact that they are looking after their own interests yet you are the one performing? $28 million.

              Arum is taking his fat slice. If he is overpaying Floyd early on, where do you think that is coming from? Damn sure not his pockets!!! He had Floyd, Mikey, and De La Hoya desperate to jump ship! Floyd was probably operating under a simple premise: promise me it...give me it...as should be the case. He's getting big paydays early, fine. He's promised big paydays later and gets shafted on chunks of it...**** you, pay me what you owe. On top of that, getting in the way of 28 million surely for Arum's own benefit? He might not be the devil, but he's just as savvy.

              He's worse than Don King. We think of him and say how the mighty have fallen. Arum still hasn't fallen and is pulling guys like Lomachenko and winning bids for Stevenson


              The point I was trying to make is, Floyd Mayweather had to go as far as suing Bob Arum. This, of course, is after Bob Arum sued Mayweather. Guess for what. Breaking his promotional contract

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Think about it this way, bro. When Mayweather was negotiating renewing his contract with Arum and Top Rank, he asked for 20 million for De La Hoya, 10 million for Hatton, and 10 million for Cotto. Bob Arum declined.

                Mayweather wound up getting 25 million for De La Hoya, 11 million for Hatton, and albeit later, 32 million for Cotto.

                He made 28 million more. Wouldn't you be mad at someone who could have stopped you from making $28 million dollars for the fact that they are looking after their own interests yet you are the one performing? $28 million.

                Arum is taking his fat slice. If he is overpaying Floyd early on, where do you think that is coming from? Damn sure not his pockets!!! He had Floyd, Mikey, and De La Hoya desperate to jump ship! Floyd was probably operating under a simple premise: promise me it...give me it...as should be the case. He's getting big paydays early, fine. He's promised big paydays later and gets shafted on chunks of it...**** you, pay me what you owe. On top of that, getting in the way of 28 million surely for Arum's own benefit? He might not be the devil, but he's just as savvy.

                He's worse than Don King. We think of him and say how the mighty have fallen. Arum still hasn't fallen and is pulling guys like Lomachenko and winning bids for Stevenson


                The point I was trying to make is, Floyd Mayweather had to go as far as suing Bob Arum. This, of course, is after Bob Arum sued Mayweather. Guess for what. Breaking his promotional contract
                Ok how about you put down the "I hate Arum handbook" of excuses and actually address what I said. You said some misleading stuff which I checked you on and here you go jumping years ahead and not looking at the real issues..oh and for the record. Show me one Arum fighter who retired broke or went broke quickly after leaving him? Not one. Yet he's Don King..also not sure what world you live in son but the typical rate for a manager is 10-15%, the typical fee fee for an agent/promoter is 10-25%. So yeah he's taking his slice just like CAA is, just like Oscar is, just like Dibella is, just like Main Events is....I don't do this sensationalizing bullshh you seem so keen on. Let's also ignore the fact Floyd got to actually have a career because Arum paid off J.Prince who wanted to end his f'ing career.

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                • Jesus. Dudes in here caping for promoters.

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Jesus. Dudes in here caping for promoters.
                    We've had posters caping for networks. That was rock bottom.

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                    • Originally posted by LalinPromotions View Post
                      ****** is synonymous to proverty in any part of the world, as was Lil'G and the slumlife millionairism. "Thugs" promote weaponry and drug life, not boastfulness about winning in combat sports and flaunting the riches or popping Coca Cola cans in front of cameras or eating popcorn watching films with his kids...

                      But as Farrakahn says, they're viewed all the same no matter what...

                      Thanks a million for the information. In my eyes, Floyd is more like a ****** Hood Rat than a ****** thug. Born and raised in a slum area, managed to move his rear end to better places thanks to his talents.

                      Unfortunately, he'll never be able to remove the ****** side of him. He ain't no thug though. You're right. He's way too soft for that "crown".

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