Why Floyd envies Lomachenko

[travestyny]

So your entire argument is hinged upon a rumor.

"According to Herbert G. Goldman, former editor of Boxing Illustrated, Dempsey was more than just a star-crossed lover. “The rumor was that he had been a pimp for Maxine between..."


Dempsey's autobiography doesn't mention a broken jaw. Perhaps another book of rumors that you never read speaks to a doorjam excuse.

I don't know what you want me to say here. You're taking all of the facts that have been presented, putting them together, and coming out with what you want to see. Yes, the rumor was that he was her pimp. Everyone has said that. He met her and moved into a whore house with her! He reportedly claimed to not have known she was a **********, yet he moved into a whore house with her????

Jack Dempsey did state that she tripped over a door frame and dislocated her jaw. Then she left him and never came back and he didn't know why. That doesn't sound fishy to you?

Interesting that you source Carlos Acevedo's article which is absent of any real facts that can be proven...since he is the same Acevedo who insists that Mayweather is shrewd at selecting opponents when they are at their most vulnerable...in other words, not at their best. So is Acevedo's word still gold?

It has nothing to do with Carlos Acevedo! None of the quotations I gave were from Carlose Acevedo. One was from Jack Dempsey's coach himself who wrapped his gloves. The other was mentioned above. Especially the one about the loaded gloves is a FACT and can be proven because the interview with Dempsey's coach was done by a respected journalist and the article was found and reposted by reliable news outlets. Come on, bro.

That he believes Mayweather was shrewd at selecting opponents doesn't bother me at all. Shouldn't he have been shrewd at selecting opponents? I don't get the point. As for saying he ducked this or that fighter, the information doesn't show it. I've posted to you about that before. All I'm saying is if anyone wants to discuss it, prove that the facts are wrong or taken in the wrong context or misconstrued. To me, it seems that the only accusation that comes close to holding up weight is the Winky Wright situation, and that's Bob Arum doing his normal bs and Winky Wright being a bigger fighter anyway, so this one is rarely even mentioned.

The problem here is that I have already acknowledged Dempsey was no angel. particularly in his youth before becoming a world champion. You on the other hand, will continue to make excuses for 40 year old Mayweather who hasn't changed his ways and is still an arrogant, self-absorbed distraction to the sport. Like the narcissist that he is he goes out of his way to disrespect Joshua, Loma, GGG and any fighter who poses a threat to the spotlight he is addicted to.

I just don't think you are being fair. I haven't seen him bash Joshua. He was at an event with him and they seemed fine. In recent days, he said Joshua was the leader of the pack amongst Heavies and said Wilder should go to him.

There was an article posted just today with Mayweather praising Loma!!!

So Lomachenko, tell your promoter to pay you. I like you. I like his movement, his speed. I respect him as a fighter.

At the end of the day, I got nothing against Lomachenko.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-lomachenko-being-underpaid-by-bottom-rank--123899

But it seems that for some posters, even this will receive some hate.

You said Dempsey ducked black fighters--to which he admits he only avoided ONE, that was a much more seasoned and experienced Sam Langford--so why would he admit he avoided Langford yet lie about Wills? Harry Wills was nothing special, but just like Floyd, if the money isn't there, then there is no fight, stop the double standard. You also think Floyd didn't duck any fighters in their prime even when faced with very suspect choices of opponents. Acevedo even acknowledges Floyd's cherry-picking ways. But he's only telling the truth when he speaks of Dempsey, not Floyd right?

Once again, I posted the situation where Dempsey backed out of the fight with Wills. Dempsey hadn't fought a black contender since 1916. He retired in 1927!!! That's 11 years without fighting a black fighter! There was huge interest in the Wills fight, and Wills said he ducked him FOR YEARS. You've pointed out to one instance. If you have some information on Wills, post it with the source and maybe we can get to the bottom of what happened. You may be completely right and I'm sure you know more about Dempsey than I do, but I'd like to see the links and articles.

And again, I don't mind what Acevedo says about Floyd. I didn't post any quotations from him and if he says Floyd cherrypicked that's fine. The facts are out there and you know I've already shown them to you, so what's the point? Acevedo is entitled to his own opinion.

He was critical of Mayweather from what I can see, particularly the Pac fight and the Berto fight. He also wondered if Boxing would survive without Floyd.

Whether or not Mayweather stays on the sidelines remains to be seen. If he keeps his word and retires permanently, however, his absence is certain to have an effect on the US fight racket. Will the sweet science in America turn into some sort of apocalyptic wasteland – like Pompeii buried under ashes – without Mayweather? Or will boxing, tenacious as ever, rebound from the loss of its biggest star?

But again, this dude doesn't mean anything to me. He put together some quotations and allowed me to find the article where Dempsey's coach admitted to loading his gloves. That's it.

Dempsey elevated the sport, beyond anything that Jack Johnson could have accomplished--Johnson, the guy who got KTFO by Jess Willard and then lied about taking a dive in the 26th round.

Johnson had an amazing run. Now you're going to beat up on him? Really? Knocked the **** out? Come on, man. You have a way for sensationalism. It was reported that neither man was marked up and some wondered how legit the knockout was since Johnson got up quickly at 10. Some thought maybe he just gave up feeling that he wasn't going to win, and it was in 103 degree heat that was draining both fighters. Not sure about him throwing the fight. Would we weird to wait for the 26th round, but some have tried to explain even that. I don't care to get into all of that.

He was 37 years old when he finally lost to Williard (mind you, this is a guy who has at least twice fought 2 opponents on the same day). He was holding the title hostage and there was a wild desire to get the title back from him and to "the whites." If you want to see a great documentary, watch "Unforgivable Blackness." It's really a good watch! If you do check it out, let me know what you think.

Meanwhile, Floyd exploited the sport. We now have fighters who are afraid to take on the best because they saw how Floyd could get rich with low-risk/high-reward fights. Cashing in on faded names, waiting for top talent to fade, hyping up B-rate fighters, and hinging their legacy on being undefeated.

What other fighters do is on them. Why are you blaming Floyd. If those are your feelings about what he did, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. But it just seems biased being that, for example, many of us posted about the 50/50 contract for Pac and you dismiss it by saying it didn't happen and then basically take a shlt on Kevin Iole who is an award winning boxing journalist and insider who always comes through with reliable information and is greatly admired amongst his peers and the boxing community. Come on, man!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

^^He can barely write and obviously can’t count either. Like I said you’re a WEIRDO. Bye girl with your gày emojis. Only person on here that uses emojis lmao fàgg. You new around here stay in your place girl

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[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

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And the best insult you got is cùnt lmao nerd.

“The best insult you can think of is “girl”

It’s not a insult it’s true. You can tell you’re either a girl behind that page or a *******. Your feelings are hurt and you’re trying to cover it up with the use of those gày laughing emojis.


You’ve already admitted owning and wearing a TBE snapback as a grown man

^ I don't wear hats at all so I don’t know where you got that from weirdo. You can’t read or write. Like I said last time stay in your place hoe you’re new around here. Didn’t that bald head, whore mother of yours teach you any manners?I keep killing this nerd and he keeps coming back. I’m done with you now girl.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

And the best insult you got is cùnt lmao nerd.

“The best insult you can think of is “girl”

It’s not a insult it’s true. You can tell you’re either a girl behind that page or a *******. Your feelings are hurt and you’re trying to cover it up with the use of those gày laughing emojis.


You’ve already admitted owning and wearing a TBE snapback as a grown man

^ I don't wear hats at all so I don’t know where you got that from weirdo. You can’t read or write. Like I said last time stay in your place hoe you’re new around here. Didn’t that bald head, whore mother of yours teach you any manners?I keep killing this nerd and he keeps coming back. I’m done with you now girl.

First “girl” now “nerd”😭😭😭😭 How old are you? like 12? I guess that explains you wearing TMT snapbacks and crew socks.
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Just pipe down b*tch. Your the one continually whining on like the little b*tch you are cause you’re butthurt over anyone mocking your pathetic hero Floyd. Your literally obsessed with him, I bet you dream of him referring to you as “lil bro” one day?
I’ve schooled you time and time again kid, your just embarrassing yourself now.
“Know your place” the only “place” you belong is in your room, on your own in your mothers basement. No wonder you’re on this forum 24/7 you must have nothing else to do in your sad pathetic life apart from barking out “dedication!!” whenever your master says “hard work”.
Get back to chanting “TBE!!!!” with the rest of the ******s in TMT.
Huge L for you.

[RussB23]

He'll never pass Floyd son. He can keep his gold medal and amateur record. He'll never ever come close to breaking Floyd ppv, live gate and actual fighting record. He's already 0/3 there lol. Floyd never lost to anyone with nearly 15 losses. TBE i know it hurts. Go check boxrec all time great list Loma will never make it..

Live gates and PPV's have nothing to do with actual boxing. Loma is on pace to be an all time great. Nobody even cares that he lost to salido.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Live gates and PPV's have nothing to do with actual boxing. Loma is on pace to be an all time great. Nobody even cares that he lost to salido.

* Lomachenco fans don’t care that he lost to Salido

There fixed it for you

[N/A]

Loma has already surpassed Floyd as an amateur, and is on his way of doing so as a Pro

Floyd is the most successful pro of all time and with the changes in technology, will go down forever as the most successful pro in history. Adjusted for inflation, his records will never be broken.

[alexguiness]

Floyd basically envies anyone who takes the spotlight off his baldy black head.

The fact that Loma is white just burns Floyd even more.

[RussB23]

* Lomachenco fans don’t care that he lost to Salido

There fixed it for you

Nobody really cares its true. Everyone knows he would demolish him with ease in a rematch. Salido hit him with non stop low blows and you could still argue lomachenko won that fight just barely.

All all time greats have losses and its no shame to lose in your second pro fight against an terribly dirty fighter.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Your the one continually whining on like the little b*tch you. Your literally obsessed with him, I bet you dream of him referring to you as “lil bro” one day?
I’ve schooled you time and time again kid, your just embarrassing yourself now.

*You're *You’re
You can’t read, spell, or write. I now understand why you use those gày emojis smh. Gày boy! How are you talking about schooling someone when you can barely spell or write like a normal person? I forgot you inbreds are born missing a few chromosomes. Now you are online giving out imaginary cyber L’s lmao ****íng nerd.

TBE this TBE that
TMT this TMT that
Girl it seems like you know every move TMT make. I didn’t even know he made socks. B1tch just admit you’re a fan. It’s 2018 spend less time worrying about TMT and more time working on your grammar and literacy. I killed your puśsy àss again, now my job is done. Bye, Emoji Warrior..