When will Stevenson gonna fight someone with a pulse?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Derranged
    Stevenson could've fought Kovalev when he was still on HBO but made the decision to go to Showtime.
    False. Stevenson was a restricted free agent and his job was to go find the best offer and then HBO had the right to match. Not his fault HBO declined to match. Was Stevenson supposed to fight for free? HBO wasn't going to bid against themselves. Stevenson had an obligation to go get an offer and present it to HBO. Which is what he did.


    Kovalev didn't want to jeopardize his new contract with HBO.
    How is this a valid excuse? Anybody jeopardizes future business if they lose. Stevenson was jeopardizing his relationship with SHO.

    Stevenson was willing to put everything on the line. Kovalev wasn't. Blatant duck.

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      #22
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      False. Stevenson was a restricted free agent and his job was to go find the best offer and then HBO had the right to match. Not his fault HBO declined to match. Was Stevenson supposed to fight for free? HBO wasn't going to bid against themselves. Stevenson had an obligation to go get an offer and present it to HBO. Which is what he did.




      How is this a valid excuse? Anybody jeopardizes future business if they lose. Stevenson was jeopardizing his relationship with SHO.

      Stevenson was willing to put everything on the line. Kovalev wasn't. Blatant duck.
      Showtime fighters aren't bound by the same restrictions HBO fighters are.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Derranged
        Showtime fighters aren't bound by the same restrictions HBO fighters are.
        Kovalev wasn't bound by any restriction though. You're not making any sense.

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          #24
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Kovalev wasn't bound by any restriction though. You're not making any sense.
          You just admitted that he would have jeopardized his new contract with HBO.

          Like I indicated above- the business side of boxing these days prevents good fights from happening. But if believing that Kovalev was "scurred" helps you sleep better at night, go right ahead.

          Have a good crap.

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            #25
            It’s been like 4 and a half year since Stevenson fought anyone with a heartbeat. I don’t know if it’s his manager, his promotor, himself or a combination that is to blame for this complete waste of a career.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Derranged
              You just admitted that he would have jeopardized his new contract with HBO.
              His chances of HBO still wanting to buy his fights if he lost would be harmed.

              No different than Stevenson's chances of SHO still wanting to buy his fights if he lost would be harmed.

              So your position still doesn't make any sense. Any fighter jeopardizes future business by losing. If that's an excuse to vacate your title and duck a purse bid, why should anybody ever fight anybody?

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                #27
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                His chances of HBO still wanting to buy his fights if he lost would be harmed.

                No different than Stevenson's chances of SHO still wanting to buy his fights if he lost would be harmed.

                So your position still doesn't make any sense. Any fighter jeopardizes future business by losing. If that's an excuse to vacate your title and duck a purse bid, why should anybody ever fight anybody?
                Fight was much easier to make when Stevenson was on HBO. Sorry pal.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Derranged
                  Fight was much easier to make when Stevenson was on HBO. Sorry pal.
                  HBO had matching rights. They declined. Blame HBO for the fight not happening.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Derranged
                    Stevenson could've fought Kovalev when he was still on HBO but made the decision to go to Showtime.

                    Kovalev didn't want to jeopardize his new contract with HBO.

                    Both were business decisions, neither fighter was "scurred".

                    However, the fight would've been much easier to make the first time around considering how the networks operate.

                    Kovalev fought Hopkins, Pascal twice and Ward twice.

                    Stevenson fought Fonfara twice, Sakio "Win For Hire" Bika who was moving up in weight, and a couple of other security guards.

                    Those are the facts.

                    After Stevenson beaten Dawson "june 2013", he said he wanted to fight Hopkins and Ward, while Ward was a commentator of the fight.
                    Ward says "76sec" Stevenson didn't have enough names on his resume to fight him. Still in HBO, Stevenson promoter offered Ward a deal to make 2 fights; 1st at 168lbs in Oakland, and the 2nd at 175lbs in Montreal. But Ward-Hunter sounds-off.
                    Stevenson went to the HBO convention "june 2013", adviser S.Watson was there, Schaefer & Hopkins too.
                    Knowing Stevenson wanted to fight him, Hopkins condition was for Stevenson to cross to Showtime to make that fight happen. Stevenson kept in touch with adviser S.Watson. And then Kovalev beated Cleverly winning the WBO strap "august 2013", he was not champion before that.
                    Later "nov 2013", Stevenson fought Bellew in the finals, right after the Kovalev Sillakh fight. Kovalev says he wants Stevenson. But according the fact Stevenson just won his clash against an Eddie Hearn guy "Bellew", because he still could do the SMW weight, also because Froch did everything to avoid him after the Super 6, and mostly because the canadian fans still had "Bute loss against Froch" on their hearts; Stevenson used this moment to say he wanted to fight Froch. HBO didn't understood, but the canadian crowd did.
                    After that, HBO was offering peanuts for Kovalev vs Stevenson WBO WBC unification, and for warm up fights. Stevenson signed with Haymon, to maximize his revenues & to evaluate Showtime monetary offer. He presented Showtime offer to HBO, to match it, but HBO rejected it for only $100 000. So Stevenson signed with Showtime to merged the Hopkins IBF & WBA belts to his WBC strap, for the Undisputed recognition. "BTW the WBO belt was not necessary to become Undisputed".
                    Kathy Duva made a lawsuit against Adonis Stevenson, Yvon Michel, Al Haymon, Golden Boy, Hopkins, Schaefer, DeLaHoya & Showtime; because she was nearly broke and was counting on that small 1.3million with a "rematch clause" HBO was willing to pay for Kovalev Stevenson. At least in that process, HBO decided to sign Kovalev right before the Agnew fight: to avoid loosing him too, to Showtime.
                    People must know, Stevenson nor Kovalev were sign under HBO at the time. But now that Kovalev locked himself under an HBO contract, he called Stevenson "p*ece-of-****" after he fought Agnew.
                    Right before the Hopkins Stevenson negotiation, Golden Boy broke relation with Schaefer and Haymon. Golden Boy & Hopkins quickly change boat to HBO, also quickly set a deal to fight Kovalev. The Duva phony lawsuit got drop at the same time: with Hopkins saying how he "check mate" Haymon and Stevenson.
                    Jean Pascal became mandatory to Stevenson. But Jean Pascal publicly says he wants 60%, Stevenson says calm down, it's 30. Pascal says 50%, Stevenson says I won't compromise, it's 30. Pascal blast off Stevenson in the media calling him Aduckn*s Ch*ckens0n, Superw0m*n, pvss*, tomato cans & taxi driver fighter & many more terms; 90% of Kovalev & followers trash words against Stevenson, started by Jean Pascal mouth; Kovalev only repeats what Pascal was barking, to his own limited trashing vocabulary.
                    Anyhow, Jean Pascal says 40% and Stevenson says lets wait for the WBC purse bid, knowing the WBC split policies were at 70-30.
                    So Jean Pascal left his mandatory position by his own and fought Kovalev for 40%. While Stevenson was already making money, it was Kovalev FIRST major paycheck in boxing. He did crumbs with Hopkins.
                    Kovalev cracked Pascal, pretending to still call out Stevenson with the WBC Diamond belt. Stevenson beat Bika and was ready for the Kovalev Stevenson negociation under the WBC rules of 50% split. But Kathy Duva stayed silent, even if Kovalev was no longer tied to his HBO contract.
                    So Yvon Michel and the WBC decided to setup a purse bid after 30 days of failed negociation. Kathy Duva claim they wouldn't participate on that purse bid because without HBO's back-up contract they will lose the bid, "like it wouldn't be fair". Okay then! so Yvon Michel and the WBC waited for Kovalev to sign another contract with HBO on May 2015, to setup a second purse bid. And Kathy Duva claims again she wouldn't participate in that second purse bid because it would cause a breach of contract if they would lose that bid, they would be in violation with the HBO exclusive contract terms. "They were just bluffing all along, Duva thought Stevenson would have vacate his title".
                    Then she starts saying, Stevenson should fought on HBO, out of his PBC agreement.
                    Even if it was clear, team Duva didn't want to lose any accomplishment Kovalev gain by fighting Hopkins and Pascal; boxing fans were already brainwashed & conditioned by the previous 2 years of constant media trashing against Stevenson. So even if Kovalev ducked Stevenson, followers, haters & trolls still believe Stevenson was & is the one ducking.
                    It's only a perception..:
                    Adonis Stevenson: Duva Used Me To Get New HBO Deal!

                    Like always, Stevenson is chasing the belts, he proposed a 2 networks deal, to fix the network issues, and to maximize the revenues; but Duva rejected the idea.
                    Again, Stevenson attempted to force a LIVE face-to-face against Kovalev on HBO, and Kovalev fled his own interview with Max Kellerman.

                    *Winston S. Churchill — 'Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.'

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                      #30
                      Stevenson worthless trash. Glad he got no serious money/fame for his acts in Haiti, etc. Hoping Kovy fights him and sleeps him though.

                      Stevenson is one of those guys that deserves it, honestly

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