Comments Thread For: Wilder Rejects Claim He's Pricing Himself Out For Joshua Bout

[Curt Henning]

So let's say Hearn offered a 65/35 split. Wilder's position is 50-50 or no fight. What's the result?

Let's say Hearn offers Wilder a 60/40 split. Beyonce's position is still 50-50 or no fight (as of the latest date, which is today - this instant article is dated today). What's the result?

Tell me your spin of how Joshua (who fought Wlad with no problem) is ducking the fight again?

i wouldnt say AJ is ducking

if you read my posts ive suggested that if hearn was serious he should make an actual offer and call wilders bluff

if a reasonable offer of 35-40 was made and wilder ducked? id call it a duck...i think 40 is beyond reasonable actually

but of course you think im like you and would spin anything into "AJ is ducking"...im not like you....i dont have problems....im reasonable

go ahead hearn...make that 35-40 percent offer....wilder says "no" than Im with you all...it would be a wilder duck

like i said though..im not like you ...i dont have issues....im reasonable

the problem for you is....hearn has made no such offer...and hasnt even attempted to make an offer....he went straight for parker while saying wilders name...ala pac to clottey while pretending he wanted floyd

[bluebeam]

its typical fanboy stuff here....these guys want to believe so badly wilder is some cowardly fraud that they will say anything to justify the claim hes ducking AJ....its typical behavior....wilder might lose a fight to AJ...he might suck...he might be a fraud as a fighter....but theres nothing logical here to suggest that an a-side cant get a fight done if they want one or actually reach out and try to negotiate....and theres nothing to suggest theyve even tried to make an offer

its typical fanboy stuff....when their favorite fighter loses its every excuse to justify what happened...when their favorite fighter ducks ward its every excuse to justify it(even if theyve slammed other fighters for the same behavior)

some of you guys need to step outside of the internet for a minute and realize there is a real world out there....where you have to look people in the eye and make these statements without looking like a fool.....but its the internet and you can say anything without any reprecussions...its kind of sad the deluisonal world some of you live in.....half the stuff some of you guys talk you would never look someone in the eye, say at jimmys corner, and say without being laughed at ......im not talking some tough guy stuff where someone would beat you up...but its easier to make clownish statements without having another man there to break it down to you in person

me and you been on different sides of the fence on different boxing topics but i agree 100 percent on this one

[MisanthropicNY]

i wouldnt say AJ is ducking

if you read my posts ive suggested that if hearn was serious he should make an actual offer and call wilders bluff

if a reasonable offer of 35-40 was made and wilder ducked? id call it a duck...i think 40 is beyond reasonable actually

but of course you think im like you and would spin anything into "AJ is ducking"...im not like you....i dont have problems....im reasonable

go ahead hearn...make that 35-40 percent offer....wilder says "no" than Im with you all...it would be a wilder duck

like i said though..im not like you ...i dont have issues....im reasonable

the problem for you is....hearn has made no such offer...and hasnt even attempted to make an offer....he went straight for parker while saying wilders name...ala pac to clottey while pretending he wanted floyd

Wilder's biggest purse is about $1 mil. Hearn offered Wilder a fight with Dillian for $3 mil in the UK to build his name in the UK for a Joshua fight (no guarantee obviously because Joshua fights are negotiated one at a time, but obviously there would be good faith to make the fight).

Wilder refused and fought Stiverne for $1 mil in a disgraceful mismatch - Stiverne looked like a tub of sht.

Joshua v. Parker is actually a better fight to make right now because it permits Joshua to get another big fight and win another title and it permits Beyonce to build his name up more for a bigger showdown. Either way - the fight is happening in the UK at a US-PPV friendly time - so Wilder should have taken the Dillian fight to build it up in the UK.

But until Beyonce drops this 50-50 charade, then we have nothing really to discuss.

[bluebeam]

It's a fact they met up for negotiations. Both sides have confirmed it.

It's a fact Wilder still wants 50% even after these negotiations.

so you dont know what hearn offer was?

thats all you had to say.

you dont know, that was easy.

[Curt Henning]

Wilder's biggest purse is about $1 mil. Hearn offered Wilder a fight with Dillian for $3 mil in the UK to build his name in the UK for a Joshua fight (no guarantee obviously because Joshua fights are negotiated one at a time, but obviously there would be good faith to make the fight).

Wilder refused and fought Stiverne for $1 mil in a disgraceful mismatch - Stiverne looked like a tub of sht.

Joshua v. Parker is actually a better fight to make right now because it permits Joshua to get another big fight and win another title and it permits Beyonce to build his name up more for a bigger showdown. Either way - the fight is happening in the UK at a US-PPV friendly time - so Wilder should have taken the Dillian fight to build it up in the UK.

But until Beyonce drops this 50-50 charade, then we have nothing really to discuss.

so bascially you are saying is "before i said wilder is ducking but now im saying that AJ/Parker is actually the better fight to make right now" right? is that what im getting? thats what it sounds like to me.....

when wilder asked "i will fight white like you asked if you promise me AJ next"...what did hearn say ? go ahead...i want to hear you say it

this notion that wilder needs to fight white to raise his UK profile is bullocks......UK fight fans are into joshua and they will buy it all to see him in there with an unbeaten US hw that looks the part and was an olympic medalist.......that whole notion is a ploy by hearn to delay the fight and make some coin off wilders name in the process.....UK fight fans know who wilder is.....but im sure you will try to tell me differently......because ive already seen you tell me that "wilder is ducking but actually the parker fight makes more sense for aj right now so that is also an excuse"

i know how rabid and how big of fight fans the UK guys are...ive spent a couple of big weekends in vegas with em.....theres no questiont they already know damn well who wilder is...nothing no fight with white is going to make any bigger

ive already admitted to you if hearn were to make a 35-40(ive even said 40 is more than reasonable) and wilder would reject it....that i would call it a wilder duck...plain and simple.....what are you willing to admit? probably nothing....because you are not a boxing fan...but a fanboy...its the same delusional behavior ive seen from pac and ggg fans over the years

[Robbie Barrett]

so you dont know what hearn offer was?

thats all you had to say.

you dont know, that was easy.

I said that 2 posts ago in a reply to you. You slow ****er.

[MisanthropicNY]

so you dont know what hearn offer was?

thats all you had to say.

you dont know, that was easy.

Negotiations shouldn't be public in the first place.

Beyonce coming out and saying 50-50 or no fight is disrespectful and breaks the code of honor.

Don't worry what the private offers were - just know that Hearn isn't like lazy-ass Haymon - he actually made a good faith effort to negotiate. Beyonce is stuck trying to get his MANGER a bigger cut - so the 50-50 talk is clearly coming from Beyonce's boss - Yuck-mouth Haymon

[MisanthropicNY]

so bascially you are saying is "before i said wilder is ducking but now im saying that AJ/Parker is actually the better fight to make right now" right? is that what im getting? thats what it sounds like to me.....

when wilder asked "i will fight white like you asked if you promise me AJ next"...what did hearn say ? go ahead...i want to hear you say it

this notion that wilder needs to fight white to raise his UK profile is bullocks......UK fight fans are into joshua and they will buy it all to see him in there with an unbeaten US hw that looks the part and was an olympic medalist.......that whole notion is a ploy by hearn to delay the fight and make some coin off wilders name in the process.....UK fight fans know who wilder is.....but im sure you will try to tell me differently......because ive already seen you tell me that "wilder is ducking but actually the parker fight makes more sense for aj right now so that is also an excuse"

i know how rabid and how big of fight fans the UK guys are...ive spent a couple of big weekends in vegas with em.....theres no questiont they already know damn well who wilder is...nothing no fight with white is going to make any bigger

ive already admitted to you if hearn were to make a 35-40(ive even said 40 is more than reasonable) and wilder would reject it....that i would call it a wilder duck...plain and simple.....what are you willing to admit? probably nothing....because you are not a boxing fan...but a fanboy...its the same delusional behavior ive seen from pac and ggg fans over the years

Exactly - I think Joshua v. Parker is the better fight to make right this second. But Hearn was still trying to make Joshua vs Wilder first.

Yuck-mouth Haymon wants his percentage cut because he's a manager who has somehow found a way to violate the Ali act - obtains a percentage of Beyonce's purse. So Hearn saw that Yuck-mouth and the country bumpkin wanted 50-50 - he told them to go fly a kite and headed back to the UK to make a realistic fight.

[Curt Henning]

Negotiations shouldn't be public in the first place.

Beyonce coming out and saying 50-50 or no fight is disrespectful and breaks the code of honor.

Don't worry what the private offers were - just know that Hearn isn't like lazy-ass Haymon - he actually made a good faith effort to negotiate. Beyonce is stuck trying to get his MANGER a bigger cut - so the 50-50 talk is clearly coming from Beyonce's boss - Yuck-mouth Haymon

ya hearn made a good faith effort to negotiate alright! why because he said he did?!?!

remember when bob arum made a countdown clock to some offer he supposedly had for floyd? yet neither floyd or any 3rd party could confirm any offer or that they had even heard from arum?

then when dan rafael asked bob "hey want concessions was manny willing to make" after the countdown had expired...bob said "i cant comment on that" and dan ripped bob to pieces on the espn site?

[Curt Henning]

Exactly - I think Joshua v. Parker is the better fight to make right this second. But Hearn was still trying to make Joshua vs Wilder first.

Yuck-mouth Haymon wants his percentage cut because he's a manager who has somehow found a way to violate the Ali act - obtains a percentage of Beyonce's purse. So Hearn saw that Yuck-mouth and the country bumpkin wanted 50-50 - he told them to go fly a kite and headed back to the UK to make a realistic fight.

he absolutely was not trying to make wilder/joshua first....and you know that.....but the other narrative fits your agenda

if you wanna say parker/AJ makes more sense now and is the better fight for Aj right now? ok sure...ill buy it.....dont tell me both

if the parker fight makes more sense why on earth would hearn try to make the other first? lol....is it cause honest eddie is so honest and AJ is the goat/truth? lolol....cmon man...try using logic and common sense when you talk....im not some dumb moron you can just spew garbage to