Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Mayweather-Leonard, Lomachenko, More

[Curtis2]

Jacobs

After a competitive GGG bout, IMO, Jacobs stepped back in the Arias bout. The interview with Eddie Hearn after this bout tells all, Eddie surly expected & needed Jacobs to stop Arias. Added pressure for Danny with next bout to look better or, relationship with Eddie may get business awkward in 2018 for Danny!

[Bronx2245]

Aaron most definitely needs some help. That was nuts.

Dear Aaron, Kill yourself! Lol!

[Bronx2245]

You beat me to it. That was the best possible response.

That was very respectful, and very funny! Keeping it real, Loma is great, but I don't see how he can build a resume like Floyd's, because I don't see Loma eventually fighting @ Jr. WW, or WW, and without Mikey, Spence Jr., Crawford, Thurman, Porter, etc., I don't see enough big fights for Loma! Loma might turn out to be another Wladimir Klitschko! Great Champion, Horrible Era!

[Butch.McRae]

That was very respectful, and very funny! Keeping it real, Loma is great, but I don't see how he can build a resume like Floyd's, because I don't see Loma eventually fighting @ Jr. WW, or WW, and without Mikey, Spence Jr., Crawford, Thurman, Porter, etc., I don't see enough big fights for Loma! Loma might turn out to be another Wladimir Klitschko! Great Champion, Horrible Era!

Never thought about that comparison, but you could be right on this. I don't see 147 in his future either. Just seems like a lot for a guy who isn't doing serious physical damage to smaller fighters. He's still be an all-time great fighter though. Top 5 right now for sure.

[bronx7]

I believe Robinson, Leonard, hearns, Duran from Leonard 1 a way way better maidana off the top of my head beat Floyd. Defense alone against alltime greats not enough there volume and power win it

[Bronx2245]

Never thought about that comparison, but you could be right on this. I don't see 147 in his future either. Just seems like a lot for a guy who isn't doing serious physical damage to smaller fighters. He's still be an all-time great fighter though. Top 5 right now for sure.

He's definitely Top 5 right now, but unlike Leonard, Oscar, and Mayweather, I don't see enough talent around him to take him to ATG status! Loma should've turned pro after he won in the 2008 Olympics! Imagine him fighting Erik Morales, Pacquiao, Barerra, Marquez, Hatton, Kostya Tszyu, etc.! That was the era he needed!

[Boxtradamus]

Floyd is the GOAT

GOOD reply Breadman but GREATNESS isn't only measured by your PEAK. It's also measured by the valley's, the longevity, and the consistency. When you take ALL things into consideration Floyd Mayweather is the Boxing GOAT. He beat 13 CHAMPS in his last 17 Fights and he also beat 5 Top 10 P4P opponents in a 7 Fight Span. WOW! ! ! ! No man in Boxing History comes close to that Fight IN and Fight OUT consistency at ANY part of their careers.

[Bronx2245]

GOOD reply Breadman but GREATNESS isn't only measured by your PEAK. It's also measured by the valley's, the longevity, and the consistency. When you take ALL things into consideration Floyd Mayweather is the Boxing GOAT. He beat 13 CHAMPS in his last 17 Fights and he also beat 5 Top 10 P4P opponents in a 7 Fight Span. WOW! ! ! ! No man in Boxing History comes close to that Fight IN and Fight OUT consistency at ANY part of their careers.

“Floyd Mayweather defeated more ranked welterweight contenders than Thomas Hearns (rankings by Ring/TBRB). He defeated more top five contenders than almost anyone outside the top ten... Mayweather defeated more lineal welterweight than Barney Ross. ..He made a past-prime Manny Pacquiao, his #1 contender at the weight, look like a journeyman. He defeated more #1 ranked fighters (champions or top rated contenders) than all but the most storied fighters. He only boxed three unranked men at the weight…He was one of the few men to become a two-time lineal world welterweight champion, and the only man to ever do it without losing a fight..”

http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/22132-the-50-greatest-welterweights-of-all-time-part-five-10-1

Floyd was ranked #9, Hearns #8, Leonard #2, Ray Robinson #1!

[mvooom]

I enjoy reading Bread's response every time but there are things I don't agree on this post. Loads of them.

I don' buy the last analysis on Floyd, Hearns, Duran and Leonard. Floyd doesn't beat fighters by taking away their stamina, breaking down their body... He beats them mentally by making them miss such a sure target punch at perfect range. Nothing is more frustrating than that which makes them think more and more as the fight proceeds, reducing their punch output drastically.

Again, Floyd does not just do better at the second half of fights, actually it starts from round 4. By round 3 there are already signs it is over for the opponent and by round 4 a huge margin begins except for very few opponents who had moments here and there.

Comparing Maidana, Castilo or any other fighter's performance to Floyd with that of Duran, Hearns, Leonard is crazy. They are humans not pre-programmed robots. Floyd beats Duran and Hearns, power or no power. Only Leonard I see giving Floyd problem, maybe winning but that will be tough for both fighters due to their skill level and styles.

The part of Davis being a threat to Loma. I don't buy that either. All that power punch Davis has will go to waste if he can't throw it because of Loma's insane footwork. Maybe in a few years but not right now.

As for GGG being the best fighter on the ropes in the last 5 years, it all comes down to power and level of opponents. Those guys were not slipping, sliding and coutering off the ropes, they stood there and covered up in fear. For GGG it was like hitting a punching bag, so ofcourse he looked great.

The guys GGG is fighting now are not even amazing skilled fighters either, Kell Brook is/was not the man at welterweight, Jacobs is good but not great. Canelo is good but c'mon, can anyone say he is a great fighter compared to the altime greats of the past using the eye test? He wins fights and he is loved which plays into his ranking, the same was used on De La Hoya during his reign.

P4P and Prime to Prime. Look at our previous guys, Pacquaio, Floyd, Ward, Rigo do you see Canelo or GGG beating those guys? What about current guys - Loma, Crawford, maybe even Spence? The answer is No.

[Robi13]

"I don’t know who learned more in the first fight. But I think both can improve. Golovkin’s punch selection was off. The only thing he could land was a jab."

GGG landed 110 power punches to Canelo's 114 LOL...

Why is everyone in the media a fan boy? The days of objective reporting is done - everyone thinks his/her opinion matters when it really doesn't. This writer has no credibility.

Bread is one of the most credible non biased boxing analyst you will find who also happens to be very knowledgeable. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s opinion it doesn’t make the lose credibility. Who should we believe, a professional boxing trainer or some poster who points out compubox numbers lol. Stop embarrassing yourself, don’t use compubox, go by what you see not by what people or some system tells you what it was... just like bread did... for the record he also said he didn’t think Canelo won the fight... sit down