Can someone explain to aboutfkntime

[aboutfkntime]

that offer aint looking too bad now after all.....

guys, a more serious post.....

one that I hope you will at least consider

before Smith, Canelo had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit..... and he had never faced a middleweight opponent

based on those two factors, there is nothing to even suggest that Canelo was a middleweight

this is what Canelo is guilty of.....

1) the fat cvnt allowed himself an extra pound that may not have benefited his JMW opponents quite as much as it benefited him
2) not immediately dropping the bogus middleweight title that he won by beating an old faded 153lb JMW, at 155

Canelo was not a middleweight champion's ass-hole..... Golovkin was the man at 160, Canelo should not have been ranked..... especially after stating this immediately following the Cotto fight..... "I have no interest in middleweight"..... and especially after making 154 for Liam Smith

FACT: the jmw's ALL struggle to make weight - to varying degree's, ALL of them..... and many of them struggle just as much as Canelo does

but Canelo had the star-power ($$$) to convince his JMW opponents to agree to 155..... and it's not like he was draining any of them..... those guys made weight easier at 155, just like Canelo did

he is no different from any of those other JMW's, apart from the fact that he is red ($$$)

you have all heard how Lara/Angulo/etc have fought higher than 154 more often than Canelo did

come on guys, this is LITERALLY all you have.....

the tiny percentage of a pound, somewhere between 154 and 155, that Canelo weighed prior to his fights at 155

and often it was not even a whole pound..... because I can recall him weighing 154.5 against someone, Kirkland I think it was

a small percentage of a single pound is LITERALLY all you guys have..... which is ridiculous, hence my pile of unanswered questions

look, I tell you what.....

I will admit that Golovkin did not duck Canelo at 155, simply because they were in different divisions..... despite the fact that Golovkin talked all of that 154 smack..... and despite the fact that AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo, Golovkin called out other JMW's at 154..... not a good look, but I will readily admit that Golovkin did not avoid that fight..... simply because those guys were in different divisions

that way, you guys kill this awkward, uncomfortable, impossible, question.....

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions..... which has been your problem to date

you guys are actually fk'ing yourselves..... you are killing yourselves over a silly technicality that made NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER to a JMW's ability to perform against genuine middleweight opponents..... AND YOU KNOW IT

FACT: the total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is determined at the OFFICIAL weigh-in..... and 155 =/= 160

that way, we can put this thread to rest

what I am proposing is, that we all agree to the following.....

there was no ducking, by either party..... those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen until Canelo officially moved up

and believe me, I am letting you guys off the hook BIG-TIME..... because, there was all of that 154 talk from Golovkin, both before and AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo..... and, kafkod just basically admitted that..... refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

but, I will leave it..... and I promise to never again accuse Golovkin of ducking Canelo..... and I will agree to the following statement.....

"those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen"

..... just to put this thread to bed, and move on

..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions.....

your call ^^

or, we can sit here all fkn year, it makes no difference whatsoever to me..... because, this thread has not really turned out how you guys first envisaged..... has it?

just a thought

oh btw, I must be honest about my offer..... it does NOT extend to Cotto..... no fkn way..... he is different, that is a different situation

think about it

here is why you should think about it.....

because, if not, this is your destiny.....

FACT: this question will be the last man standing in this thread, and I am sure that you all realize that.....

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

and of course, the elephant.....



by agreeing, you kill both the impossible question, and the elephant

your call, and I cannot be more fair than that ^^

b,b,b,b,but.....

[aboutfkntime]

the elephant in the room.....

when you dumb fk's heard all of that "anyone from 154-168" nonsense..... who did YOU think he wanted to fight?..... if not Cotto Canelo Ward, then who..... Rosado? lol

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

why did Golovkin say this..... " middleweight is 160 " ?

why did Golovkin say this about 159lb Kell Brook..... "he is not a middleweight. He just isn't"?

explain the FUNCTIONAL difference between 153.9 and 154.1.....

if Golovkin is a SMW, because he fought above 160..... then why did he need a cw for Ward?

FACT: refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

if you clowns give up before page 300..... shame on you

[TonyGe]

gloveking, you calculator-wielding muppet.....

and this goes for the rest of you 154.1 lb ***wits.....

is 153 between 154.1 and 160..... or not ?

come on clowns..... you say that 154.1 is middleweight...... now explain how the fk 153 is middleweight?

come one and all, bring your calculators..... this will be funny

I really need to hear your childish spin on that one loool

Dude you are seriously unbalanced. 154.1 pounds is in the Middleweight division. Any weight above the upper limit of of JM division to the upper limit of the Middleweight limit is in the Middleweight division. I can't for the life of me understand why it's so difficult for you to understand that. Boxing is about rules and one set rules define the weight classes. At this point in his career Canelo chose numerous times to fight in the weight range of the Middleweight division. Obviously for his benefit. You can call these fights whatever you want catchweights, exhibitions etc. but Canelo did engage in those matches. Whether other fighters like Lara and whoever did the same doesn't change this. He chose the action obviously he knew there would be a backlash and it doesn't bother him. So why are you so upset. Look at Canelo's body when he fought Golovkin. He was in shape. He wasn't carrying extra weight in the form of fat like some small fighters do when they move up. Canelo at this stage of his career is a Middleweight not JM. That is why he stopped trying to make the JM limit.

[aboutfkntime]

Dude you are seriously unbalanced. 154.1 pounds is in the Middleweight division. Any weight above the upper limit of of JM division to the upper limit of the Middleweight limit is in the Middleweight division. I can't for the life of me understand why it's so difficult for you to understand that. Boxing is about rules and one set rules define the weight classes. At this point in his career Canelo chose numerous times to fight in the weight range of the Middleweight division. Obviously for his benefit. You can call these fights whatever you want catchweights, exhibitions etc. but Canelo did engage in those matches. Whether other fighters like Lara and whoever did the same doesn't change this. He chose the action obviously he knew there would be a backlash and it doesn't bother him. So why are you so upset. Look at Canelo's body when he fought Golovkin. He was in shape. He wasn't carrying extra weight in the form of fat like some small fighters do when they move up. Canelo at this stage of his career is a Middleweight not JM. That is why he stopped trying to make the JM limit.

1)

we have ONLY ever referred to 155lb Canelo.....

that fact is clearly obvious

pointing out that Canelo is a middleweight NOW, is choosing to completely miss the point, and highly dishonest

2)

anything from 154.1 - 160..... is middleweight
anything from 154.1 - 155..... is a catchweight

3)

there are only two kinds of people who would insist that a guy who had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit, and who had never faced a middleweight opponent..... was a genuine middleweight

* an excuse-making fanboy
* a casual-fan, who DKSAB

which one are you ?

[kafkod]

bla, bla , bla... but, but, smith received orders from golden boy as well as wba doe... again you keep bringing your speculation but if someone does it for ggg you call him hypocrite... if you dont have proof then is nothing but speculation, i dont care if its ggg or canelo, it works both ways..

Ok, so why don't you try and do it for Golovkin?

I posted a link to VADA saying that Canelo had withdrawn from testing for his fight with Smith.

Now you try and find a link to VADA announcing that GGG had withdrawn from testing for a fight, and post it here.

I also posted a link to Eric Gomez giving a totally bull**** explanation for why there was going to be no VADA testing for the fight .. "because we didn't have time to set it up"

Completely different from the explanation given by Canelo, who was implying that VADA tests were cancelled because Smith didn't want them.

Now you try and find a link to Tom Loeffler saying there was going to be no VADA testing for a GGG fight because K2 didn't have time to set it up.

[aboutfkntime]

there are only two kinds of people who would insist that a guy who had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit, and who had never faced a middleweight opponent..... was a genuine middleweight

* an excuse-making fanboy
* a casual-fan, who DKSAB

which one are you ?

this started as "can someone explain to aboutfkntime" thread

by page 2 it became the..... "list of silly fanboys who are willing to embarrass themselves in public by making childish excuses to justify why lil'G shat the bed over weight AGAIN"..... thread

b,b,b,but.....



you clowns have embarrassed yourselves

[kafkod]

The elephant just took another dump

guys, a more serious post.....

one that I hope you will at least consider

before Smith, Canelo had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit..... and he had never faced a middleweight opponent

based on those two factors, there is nothing to even suggest that Canelo was a middleweight

this is what Canelo is guilty of.....

1) the fat cvnt allowed himself an extra pound that may not have benefited his JMW opponents quite as much as it benefited him
2) not immediately dropping the bogus middleweight title that he won by beating an old faded 153lb JMW, at 155

Canelo was not a middleweight champion's ass-hole..... Golovkin was the man at 160, Canelo should not have been ranked..... especially after stating this immediately following the Cotto fight..... "I have no interest in middleweight"..... and especially after making 154 for Liam Smith

FACT: the jmw's ALL struggle to make weight - to varying degree's, ALL of them..... and many of them struggle just as much as Canelo does

but Canelo had the star-power ($$$) to convince his JMW opponents to agree to 155..... and it's not like he was draining any of them..... those guys made weight easier at 155, just like Canelo did

he is no different from any of those other JMW's, apart from the fact that he is red ($$$)

you have all heard how Lara/Angulo/etc have fought higher than 154 more often than Canelo did

come on guys, this is LITERALLY all you have.....

the tiny percentage of a pound, somewhere between 154 and 155, that Canelo weighed prior to his fights at 155

and often it was not even a whole pound..... because I can recall him weighing 154.5 against someone, Kirkland I think it was

a small percentage of a single pound is LITERALLY all you guys have..... which is ridiculous, hence my pile of unanswered questions

look, I tell you what.....

I will admit that Golovkin did not duck Canelo at 155, simply because they were in different divisions..... despite the fact that Golovkin talked all of that 154 smack..... and despite the fact that AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo, Golovkin called out other JMW's at 154..... not a good look, but I will readily admit that Golovkin did not avoid that fight..... simply because those guys were in different divisions

that way, you guys kill this awkward, uncomfortable, impossible, question.....



..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions..... which has been your problem to date

you guys are actually fk'ing yourselves..... you are killing yourselves over a silly technicality that made NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER to a JMW's ability to perform against genuine middleweight opponents..... AND YOU KNOW IT

FACT: the total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is determined at the OFFICIAL weigh-in..... and 155 =/= 160

that way, we can put this thread to rest

what I am proposing is, that we all agree to the following.....

there was no ducking, by either party..... those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen until Canelo officially moved up

and believe me, I am letting you guys off the hook BIG-TIME..... because, there was all of that 154 talk from Golovkin, both before and AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo..... and, kafkod just basically admitted that..... refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

but, I will leave it..... and I promise to never again accuse Golovkin of ducking Canelo..... and I will agree to the following statement.....

"those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen"

..... just to put this thread to bed, and move on

..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions.....

your call ^^

or, we can sit here all fkn year, it makes no difference whatsoever to me..... because, this thread has not really turned out how you guys first envisaged..... has it?

just a thought

oh btw, I must be honest about my offer..... it does NOT extend to Cotto..... no fkn way..... he is different, that is a different situation

think about it

here is why you should think about it.....

because, if not, this is your destiny.....

FACT: this question will be the last man standing in this thread, and I am sure that you all realize that.....



and of course, the elephant.....



by agreeing, you kill both the impossible question, and the elephant

your call, and I cannot be more fair than that ^^

this started as "can someone explain to aboutfkntime" thread

by page 2 it became the..... "list of silly fanboys who are willing to embarrass themselves in public by making childish excuses to justify why lil'G shat the bed over weight AGAIN"..... thread

b,b,b,but.....



you clowns have embarrassed yourselves

if you clowns give up before page 300..... shame on you

b,b,b,b,but.....

FACT: refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

1)

we have ONLY ever referred to 155lb Canelo.....

that fact is clearly obvious

pointing out that Canelo is a middleweight NOW, is choosing to completely miss the point, and highly dishonest

2)

anything from 154.1 - 160..... is middleweight
anything from 154.1 - 155..... is a catchweight

3)

there are only two kinds of people who would insist that a guy who had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit, and who had never faced a middleweight opponent..... was a genuine middleweight

* an excuse-making fanboy
* a casual-fan, who DKSAB

which one are you ?

The invisible elephant just had another massive shit.

Who's gonna clean the mess up this time?

[aboutfkntime]

Ok, so why don't you try and do it for Golovkin?

I posted a link to VADA saying that Canelo had withdrawn from testing for his fight with Smith.

Now you try and find a link to VADA announcing that GGG had withdrawn from testing for a fight, and post it here.

I also posted a link to Eric Gomez giving a totally bull**** explanation for why there was going to be no VADA testing for the fight .. "because we didn't have time to set it up"

Completely different from the explanation given by Canelo, who was implying that VADA tests were cancelled because Smith didn't want them.

Now you try and find a link to Tom Loeffler saying there was going to be no VADA testing for a GGG fight because K2 didn't have time to set it up.

Canelo has never tested positive, so your whining is just excuse-filled speculation

convenient speculation that more comfortably fits into the "excuse-making muppet" category

[kafkod]

Canelo has never tested positive, so your whining is just excuse-filled speculation

convenient speculation that more comfortably fits into the "excuse-making muppet" category

Not being tested is a great way to avoid testing positive!