Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
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As of right now, who would you rank higher: Floyd or Ali?
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostC'mon man, Prime George Fuking Foreman!? That gotdamn monster!
Sonny liston??
Ali and it's not close!
Floyd has one of the greatest resumes of all time but he doesn't have the elite prime ATG on his resume that Ali has!
IMO, if Floyd wasn't such a high risk and low reward he would've beaten a prime Mosley and Dela Hoya maybe even moving up from 135 to 147 when he was calling them out!
Ali kumbaye!
Floyd was grabbing a title from Gernaro Hernandez at 17-0.Not getting dropped like a sack of shít against that eurobum Henry Cooper who was like 27-8-1!
Ali had a bunch of unnecessary rematches. Cooper, Chuvalo, Quarry, Patterson, Bugner.
Shavers WHOOPED Ali, totally fixed card. Most people say Norton won all 3x.
Foreman and Liston arguably took dives.
I think it's totally close and honestly, I think Floyd not only has a better resume, but is the better fighter P4P. Floyd rarely looked beatbale, Ali on the other hand....I mean go watch the Shavers fight. Ali was getting battered from post to post.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostDo what? I said before the Rigo fight he wouldn't get much credit for fighting a guy 2 divisions smaller and that the fight was more about Rigo and him doing something great. So don't try that shit.
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Originally posted by McNulty View PostLets not even go by Ali's full resume, lets start with a fixed win against a Doug Jones (21-3) when Clay was 17-0. Clay LOST, the end.
Floyd was grabbing a title from Gernaro Hernandez at 17-0.Not getting dropped like a sack of shít against that eurobum Henry Cooper who was like 27-8-1!
Ali had a bunch of unnecessary rematches. Cooper, Chuvalo, Quarry, Patterson, Bugner.
Shavers WHOOPED Ali, totally fixed card. Most people say Norton won all 3x.
Foreman and Liston arguably took dives.
I think it's totally close and honestly, I think Floyd not only has a better resume, but is the better fighter P4P. Floyd rarely looked beatbale, Ali on the other hand....I mean go watch the Shavers fight. Ali was getting battered from post to post.
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Originally posted by EL_GRINGO View PostWhy are you getting upset that people nitpick and dissect Floyd's record when you do the same with other fighters, just stay constant and hold everybody to the same scrutiny,that's all i am saying
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Originally posted by djtmal View Postso, if we go by the word of someone named mcnulty, ali was the benficiary of fixed fights
Go watch Ernie Shavers and Doug Jones vs Ali/Clay. Just do the work and come back and we'll talk about it.
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Floyd who?
To compare Mayweather to Ali in any way is a joke.
Ali fought everyone he needed to fight when they were prime. If someone gave him a great fight he fought them again, sometimes three times.
He traveled out of the USA to fight and then was robbed of his prime years by a rigged government who later exonerated him of all chargers.
The two most feared fighters Liston & Foreman were STOPPED by Ali. Don't talk about the Liston vs Ali first bout as fixed, someone was beating Liston up real badly and it wasn't the ref. Foreman taking a dive is the biggest BS stated yet.
What Floyd got a way with in the current landscape he could NEVER get away with back in Ali's era. The fans knew who was for real and who was a fraud and lil" Floyd
after his super feather days just became a cherry picking
scam and the dumb fans today who bought his garbage wouldn't know the real deal if it fell on them.
The fact that this thread is even posted says it all.
Ray
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Ali, it's a bigger feat beat big strong heavyweights than Cherry Pic a bunch of has beens like Mosley, Delahoya, Pacquaio, retire t0 avoid the big threats than come back when everyone has been battle tested.and shop worn Ali never used steroids special against a wash up little Asian
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Originally posted by McNulty View PostSure why not? What does my name have to do with ANYTHNG? Seems ******ed to discredit me soley based on the phonetic value of my name.
Go watch Ernie Shavers and Doug Jones vs Ali/Clay. Just do the work and come back and we'll talk about it.
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