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  • #71
    Originally posted by BendOver View Post
    he was doing that because he is younger and stronger. lomachenko was at 132 in the amateurs. he trimmed down for a few fights but couldn't hold the weight longer. Rigondeuax was 112 pounds in the amateurs, and some say that he could go lower if he desired. So those 20 lbs difference was even magnified by the age difference to. Younger and reaching his prime. The other in decline, older and in a heavier weight class, he not even walk around with that much weight. I rooted for him but my brain was telling me his was done against this great boxer, younger and bigger. And no, if Rigondeaux was the younger and bigger, the result would had been reverse.

    lmao, oh now theyre 20 lbs difference. Right. We know they were 8 lbs apart the morning of the fight. More excuses from Rigo backers who somehow came out of the woodwork. I didnt know Rigo even had fans.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
      Greatest fight of the decade they said, two time Olympic gold medalists face each other for the first time ever in Boxing. A game of chess between two masters, a fight between two warriors for the centuries.

      Holy crap why the **** was this fight even made?

      Rigo is 6 and a half percent lighter than Loma in weight, shorter, but with a 3 inch reach advantage. All things being equal, Loma should have been better than Rigo by 6.5%, perhaps won a 7-5 decision.

      But Loma was like a God against an amateur Bum in there.

      Loma’s talent was on a level that made Rigo quit like a loser.

      It’s not the weight, 6.5 ****ing percent is nothing to justify the complete domination. It was not a Chocolatito vs Joshua fight, it’s a small guy against a very slightly heavier but still small guy.

      But now the ****** shlt people write about this fight makes me question why the **** was this fight even made? I mean 6.5% weight difference. Cry me a ****ing river.
      Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
      This math is dumb and you should feel dumb for having posted it

      Would you expect a 160lber to beat a 140lber by 14.3% aka still closer to 7-5 than any other score?

      No because that's a terrible way to determine how much the weight should impact the fight
      So glad, you called out that foolishness

      Canelo almost killed Amir Khan

      GGG broke Kell Brook's face

      Those types of mismatches have no place in boxing

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      • #73
        Originally posted by deanrw View Post
        I know because of the clash of styles. If you knew how Rigo truly fought and what he looks for, you would know Loma was totally wrong for him.
        No, Loma was totally too big for him. I knew that his talk would exist when Loma won. Anytime that you have to include that size didn't matter means you knew that size mattered.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
          No, Loma was totally too big for him. I knew that his talk would exist when Loma won. Anytime that you have to include that size didn't matter means you knew that size mattered.
          Well I guess my prediction on youtube a week before the fight saying Rigo would QUIT before the 8th round because he would not be able to hit loma was just a lucky guess then. I can send you the link if you want.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by el*** View Post
            lmao, oh now theyre 20 lbs difference. Right. We know they were 8 lbs apart the morning of the fight. More excuses from Rigo backers who somehow came out of the woodwork. I didnt know Rigo even had fans.
            they were 10 pounds in the morning, how much more at fight time. And you know what I'm talking about. lomachenko has always been a lightweight. That was my point. Not excusing Rigondeauax, he wanted a pay day, he got it along with an stigma too. And yes I'm one of those fans and again not excusing Rigondeaux. Only facts, you can dismiss it or not, I really don't care. All lomachenk's fans claiming he has only 10 or 11 professional fights, when in fact he got paid for 6 previous bout at the wsb. He finished his amateur career at lightweight and fought as a feather in the professional ranks. Not too many fights though, you can't hold that natural weight down for long. So far he has fought only smallest fighters, reminds me of ginger. Although the kid can really fight. Lets see when he fight someone his size and comparable skills. A hearns vs. Leonard kind of match...

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
              Sure I’m a moron. I guess your crybabies logic makes total sense.

              P4P ranked top 10, two time Olympic Gold fighter made to look like total amateur noob and quits against other fighter ALL BECAUSE OTHER FIGHTER WAS 6% HEAVIER.

              Makes total sense. Merry Christmas!
              Try adding 6% to your logic. May help.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                They aren't playing the victim card they are simply stating facts.
                #1 Rigo is smaller.
                #2 Rigo is older
                #3 Lomo is equally skilled
                #4 Lomo has fought at this weight before.
                I'm not a fan of either guy but it's obvious Rigondeaux was at a severe disadvantage.
                Loma proved that he is WAY more skilled than Rigo, that's for sure. All the salt on the planet won't change that.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Shrap View Post
                  Loma proved that he is WAY more skilled than Rigo, that's for sure. All the salt on the planet won't change that.
                  Proved he was way more skilled? Really? You consider what you saw proof? I’d hate to have you on my jury, man. Lol

                  The only chance anyone gave Rigo at all was based on skill. I don’t think I’ve heard even one expert say they thought Lomo was more skilled than Rigo, let alone way more skilled. In fact, I’ve heard at least one expert say the opposite.

                  Size and age are two big factors in combat sports. When the opponents are comparably skilled — a much more reasonable comparison — the bigger, prime athlete has a huge advantage.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by TheClap View Post
                    Try adding 6% to your logic. May help.
                    Rigo should have perhaps tried to add 6% to his skill level, it would have helped way more than 6% weight...

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Shrap View Post
                      Loma proved that he is WAY more skilled than Rigo, that's for sure. All the salt on the planet won't change that.
                      Possibly more skilled or Rigo's reflexes aren't what they used to be. In any event it was a dominant performance.

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