Where does the myth arise from that Vasyl Lomachenko has been a weight bully?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
    I came here to say this.

    I come here everyday and post 17 times per day on average, but I've never heard this.

    And to be clear, pointing out the fact that Rigo was smaller (which he is) does not imply that one thinks Loma is a weight bully (which he is not).
    Of course Floma is a wieght bully, and the irony simply is shined from Rigo and Marriaga. Rigo is a small super bantamweight who could've drained at 118 as Floma did at 126. Rigo chose not to...

    So Floma having weighed 125 early in his career and never giving Rigo a catch when the Cuban was higher in the p4p list, means Floma wasn't really a bully, but more of a pųssy since he didnt give Rigo the 124 catch. Again, Rigo was already accomplished and a made man, A side bidness. Klimas and Arum wanted no part of that, shows why Floma lost to Salido with no power leverage as he wouldve had at 130+.

    Then Floma...only to bring the same dude years later to 130... then fights him having ESPN backing..

    And little G fans cry about opponents waiting for Lil'G to get old..

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      #32
      People on here think the "tonight" weights are a conspiracy or something.

      They flat out don't believe them.

      List Canelo's fight night weights (he's been a fairly robust MW for years) & 90% of the responses will be **** like "Mauricio Sulaimán is known to rig the unofficial scales against Canelo, that's why they're unofficial!".

      People don't like data. They like to pretend everything is a mystery and stretch the conversation out.

      In reality weight divisions are truly meaningless because of scientific cutting tactics & those "tonight" weights are about the ONLY true knowledge we have of a fighter's size.
      Last edited by ////; 01-06-2018, 04:39 AM.

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      • Grimgash
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        #33
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Ok and? That's one person. That's not popular opinion here nor anywhere else. Perhaps read my whole statement next time. I said one person saying it doesn't make it popular opinion.

        And I haven't watched the video but he was probably talking about Loma fighting guys moving up. I wouldn't use weight bully to describe that.
        Weight bully is cutting extreme weight to stay in your weight class for an advantage
        That's what he gets knocked for, not cutting massive weight to stay in a weight class..... that isn't being a weight bully its fighting smaller guys.

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          #34
          Originally posted by LalinPromotions
          Floma has been fighting at 132 since 2011. It doesn't matter if there's a sam day weigh in, that means you're acknowledging draining that pros do. Floma been fighting at 135lb+ on fight nights, and even more in recent bouts. So from 126 to 135lb, what's the need to jump 10lbs? That means he's cutting weight as most boxers do. Vs a guy like Floyd who had HBO groahics showing a 1lb or 2lb boost from the weighin.

          It's common sense. If Floma was hitting 132 since 2011, then he could've started pro at 130lbs and gained 2lbs similar to Floyd. Instead he chose to hit 126.

          4lbs Floma is willing to make a difference in his career I'm fine with...

          154-168 ez fomi should be more critical....and not giving in to any other weights...but says it's easy...
          What's your point? Lomachenko fights opponents his own size as proven by actual evidence I've posted at a consistent basis.

          Pretty much every other amateur turned pro competes one weight division below what they competed in as an amateur. Including Mikey Garcia and Andre Ward. So what's your point again?

          What's your problem with Lomachenko competing and earning his titles at 126 and 130 pounds.

          Come with actual facts and proof perhaps to substantiate your points? Not baseless claims and irrelevant waffles!

          So until then, Lomachenko isn't a 'weight bully'!
          Last edited by Mr Objecitivity; 01-06-2018, 06:00 AM.

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            #35
            Mexican bums like Chavez Jr & Canelo are true weight bullies... They cut more than 40 lbs than beat smaller & weaker opponents, but when they move up to their actual weght divions they shrink.

            Great Mexican 'school' of fighting (cheating)!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Grimgash
              That's what he gets knocked for, not cutting massive weight to stay in a weight class..... that isn't being a weight bully its fighting smaller guys.
              Well he isn't fighting smaller guys though as proven by the weights of himself and his opponents. Rigondeaux and Marriaga bouts were exceptions and not the norm.

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                #37
                Well let's see sum sum. Er he fights smaller people or hydrates well like canelo both cheats really. To even accept a fight against rigo knowing his moving up 2 divisions says everything

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                  What's your point? Lomachenko fights opponents his own size as proven by actual evidence I've posted at a consistent basis.

                  Pretty much every other amateur turned pro competes one weight division below what they competed in as an amateur. Including Mikey Garcia and Andre Ward. So what's your point again?

                  What's your problem with Lomachenko competing and earning his titles at 126 and 130 pounds.

                  Come with actual facts and proof perhaps to substantiate your points? Not baseless claims and irrelevant waffles!

                  So until then, Lomachenko isn't a 'weight bully'!
                  Andre Ward even in rehydration during fights at 168 looked too thin imo. It was only until his metabolic rate slowed did he show gains at LHW, and looked afit LHW with still incredible speed!!!

                  Ward was at LHW in the Olympics as a sub out from the 168 spot. Shows how great Ward really was. He's badddd dude!!! ATG, first ballot HOF.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by oscar9992
                    Mexican bums like Chavez Jr & Canelo are true weight bullies... They cut more than 40 lbs than beat smaller & weaker opponents, but when they move up to their actual weght divions they shrink.

                    Great Mexican 'school' of fighting (cheating)!
                    Canelo had no control for nature looking thinner at 140-147 since that was his realistic gainage from 15 years of age to 19 years of age. Canelo has gone through 4 classes. If Canelo was as big as starting out, there'd be footage of him from 140+ to 160lb on fight night early in his career which isnt the case, and for any combat fighter to "rehydrate" like so for years would already be done and taxed the body.

                    This is why your trollage of Juiciah gonnna get him murked by Wilder, cause dassa what Karma wants!

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LalinPromotions
                      Andre Ward even in rehydration during fights at 168 looked too thin imo. It was only until his metabolic rate slowed did he show gains at LHW, and looked afit LHW with still incredible speed!!!

                      Ward was at LHW in the Olympics as a sub out from the 168 spot. Shows how great Ward really was. He's badddd dude!!! ATG, first ballot HOF.
                      To me, Lomachenko also looked pretty small at 126 pounds and looked much smaller in size compared to most boxers in the amateurs at the 132 pounds weight division.

                      You do realize that Vasyl Lomachenko was also competing at a weight division below at 126 pounds / 57 KG in the 2008 Olympics before he moved up to the 132 pounds weight division in the 2012 Olympics, right? In other words, Lomachenko won 2 Olympic gold medals in two different weight divisions.

                      Here's the proof:



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