Comments Thread For: Kovalev, Bivol, Beterbiev Create a Red Dawn at 175-Pounds

[Randall Cunning]

Chickenson and the whole lot of PBC (protecting boxing cowards) are in cahoots with the WBC (mauricio sulaiman)... just look at their M.O. (modeus operandi)....#drain the boxing swamp

This is where Haymon has worked his magic and made PBC relevant in so many divisions. If you make all his "Champions" fight the best in their divisions and he'll have one champion at 154. No interest in making good fights as its against building the PBC brand.

[Scipio2009]

The funny thing about this entire write-up is that, outside of Bivol who's still a prospect (we have no idea how good he is really; the Barrera fight will definitely sort out much of that), none of the three fighters have shown themselves to be determinably better than lineal light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson.

Disparage the man all folks want, he's arguably the biggest sheer puncher south of heavyweight, has nowhere near the wear on his body that he should (only put on boxing gloves at 25 years of age, a reasonably short amateur career, unsure of any gym wars on his clock, basically a 168lber fighting out of his division, etc), and still hasn't come across anyone who could actually figure out his style (everyone knows that the monster left is coming, but Stevenson hides it behind 6-8 different looks that all work).

Badou Jack's style ( fundamentals) is different, so let's see how he does, but Stevenson isn't as easy a mark as folks here have convinced themselves he is.

[slimPickings]

The funny thing about this entire write-up is that, outside of Bivol who's still a prospect (we have no idea how good he is really; the Barrera fight will definitely sort out much of that), none of the three fighters have shown themselves to be determinably better than lineal light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson.

Disparage the man all folks want, he's arguably the biggest sheer puncher south of heavyweight, has nowhere near the wear on his body that he should (only put on boxing gloves at 25 years of age, a reasonably short amateur career, unsure of any gym wars on his clock, basically a 168lber fighting out of his division, etc), and still hasn't come across anyone who could actually figure out his style (everyone knows that the monster left is coming, but Stevenson hides it behind 6-8 different looks that all work).

Badou Jack's style ( fundamentals) is different, so let's see how he does, but Stevenson isn't as easy a mark as folks here have convinced themselves he is.

Good post.

One of the few sensible posts about Stevenson around here.

[sammybee]

a fight between Kovalev and Beterbiev should be made.

[Pigeons]

The funny thing about this entire write-up is that, outside of Bivol who's still a prospect (we have no idea how good he is really; the Barrera fight will definitely sort out much of that), none of the three fighters have shown themselves to be determinably better than lineal light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson.

Disparage the man all folks want, he's arguably the biggest sheer puncher south of heavyweight, has nowhere near the wear on his body that he should (only put on boxing gloves at 25 years of age, a reasonably short amateur career, unsure of any gym wars on his clock, basically a 168lber fighting out of his division, etc), and still hasn't come across anyone who could actually figure out his style (everyone knows that the monster left is coming, but Stevenson hides it behind 6-8 different looks that all work).

Badou Jack's style ( fundamentals) is different, so let's see how he does, but Stevenson isn't as easy a mark as folks here have convinced themselves he is.

Kovalev > Pimp

Hopkins, Pascal 2x, Ward I > Dawson

[steady_p]

he didn't lose to ward. he lost to corrupt judges and then to tony weeks. they are much better than ward could ever be. ward wasnt on kovalevs level that was clear.

Totally agree. And imo, Krusher is still #1 in the division. He can turn even more dangerous if this Arbror guy can fix some of his weak points and tune-up his best weapons (which would have never happened, had Kovalev kept that loser of JDJ as trainer...). Merry Christmas to every boxing fan.

[Leonis]

I take Gvozdyk over all of them

[Shane1091]

Kovalev is the proven one and we know what he can do but you are right Bivol seemns to be the full package but im looking forward to the Barrera-fight, if he beats Barrera without problems hes for real!

I really like bivol think it will be between him and Kovalev and imo bivol looks to have a good chin which might be the difference with a division that carrys so much power.

[Shane1091]

I take Gvozdyk over all of them

I do too but his chin might his weakness, and when you have a division that can has power the chin will be a massive plus along with defence.

[Shane1091]

[QUOTE=daggum;18359341]he didn't lose to ward. he lost to corrupt judges and then to tony weeks.

O here we go again... He lost get over it.