Comments Thread For: Saunders: Golovkin is 35 Now, Can't Keep Up To Outbox Me

[Cutthroat]

I'm sorry bro but all the science in the world isn't going to reverse the damage of the brain...everything starts with the brain..you get your brain smacked around enough you'll slow down. It's inevitable...hell if you want to pull out Ouma I can pull out Floyd barely getting past Castillo and both went on to destroy plenty of foes after that. Every man has his wall, those were theirs. Respect the men, to say both are prime right now is laughable when one is saying his body can't take it and the other one has been halfway talking retirement for 12 months. While experience plays a part all the experience in the world isn't going to help you fend of father time, you may fight smarter but you aren't getting any faster after 33 years of age, sorry even Gatlin needed drugs to do that.

Martinez was in his mid 30's when he peaked, previously KO'd. Wladimir Klitschko was in his mid 30's when he peaked, stopped multiple times. Hopkins was in his mid 30's when he peaked, hit plenty of times. Toney was in his mid 30's and still winning titles in higher weight classes despite being obese, Roy Jones Jr. was 34 and whooping Ruiz's ass at HW only slowing down when he moved down. Calzaghe was in his mid 30's when he peaked. There are numerous real life examples of fighters performing well into their mid 30's.

You talk as if ggg is a shot fighter, he's not. You talk as if ggg hasn't shown the same exact flaws in past fights when he was younger, he has.

Mayweather was 25 when he fought a prime Castillo.
ggg was 30 when he fought a faded Ouma.

ggg was barely 5 years pro when he was 30 years old, he was inexperienced. Murray, Rosado, Ishida, these fights did nothing to prepare ggg for Canelo, but Jacobs did.

The physical decline between a 33 year old ggg and a 34 year old is minuscule and has been more than offset by the experienced gained fighting Jacobs. At the end of the day it's just an excuse, while you say ggg was 34 years old, I can say Canelo had NEVER fought a true middle weight and he hasn't. Amir Khan, Liam Smith and Chavez were not middleweights nor were they proper prep for ggg.

[satiev1]

Hmm. GGG according to some is always in his prime regardless of age. The only fighter in the history of boxing who's always in his prime no matter the age.


Ggg at 34 = in his prime
ggg at 35 = in his prime
ggg at 36 = same fighter as he was at 28.
ggg at 37 = in his prime.
ggg at 38 = in his prime
ggg at 39 = in his prime
ggg at 40 = same fighter as always.

[PensionKiller]

He was never on decline, it was the competition that exposed him. You lil g fans keep trying so hard that it looks so bad....lol

Are you dumb?

I am stating that at age 35 your body declines which relates to what BJS. Did I talk about previous fights you dumb mofo?

[kafkod]

We don't always agree on stuff on here but i am glad someone here is being reasonable.

Martinez was in his mid 30's when he peaked, previously KO'd. Wladimir Klitschko was in his mid 30's when he peaked, stopped multiple times. Hopkins was in his mid 30's when he peaked, hit plenty of times. Toney was in his mid 30's and still winning titles in higher weight classes despite being obese, Roy Jones Jr. was 34 and whooping Ruiz's ass at HW only slowing down when he moved down. Calzaghe was in his mid 30's when he peaked. There are numerous real life examples of fighters performing well into their mid 30's.

You talk as if ggg is a shot fighter, he's not. You talk as if ggg hasn't shown the same exact flaws in past fights when he was younger, he has.

Mayweather was 25 when he fought a prime Castillo.
ggg was 30 when he fought a faded Ouma.

ggg was barely 5 years pro when he was 30 years old, he was inexperienced. Murray, Rosado, Ishida, these fights did nothing to prepare ggg for Canelo, but Jacobs did.

The physical decline between a 33 year old ggg and a 34 year old is minuscule and has been more than offset by the experienced gained fighting Jacobs. At the end of the day it's just an excuse, while you say ggg was 34 years old, I can say Canelo had NEVER fought a true middle weight and he hasn't. Amir Khan, Liam Smith and Chavez were not middleweights nor were they proper prep for ggg.

I've read reults of several studies into athletic performance and aging, here's one of them:

https://www.wired.com/2011/07/athletes-peak-age/

They all say the same thing - that with male athletes the physical peak is reached in the mid 20's and starts slowly declining after that.

Boxing performance is a combination of physical capability plus tactical awarness and technique. Tactical awarness increases with experience, and boxers can still be learning new techniques or refining old ones at any age, which is why some boxers actually perform better in their late 20's and early to mid 30's than they did at their physical peak.

Sergio Martinez took up boxing very late, so he was still learning and improving into his 30's. Wlad totally changed his approach and became a master tactician in his late 30's. So did Bhop.

Another variant is the style of boxing used. Pressure fighters "age" more quickly than tactical boxers, because their style depends more upon sheer physical energy and recuperative power than a tactical boxer, who can get better as his tactical experience increases, even though his reflexes may be slower, and his energy levels lower.

Golovkin took up boxing at an early age, and was schooled by some of the best technical coaches in the world during his long amateur career. No doubt he learned some new tricks with Abel, but what he calls "Mexican style" is basically high energy pressure fighting, the most difficult style of all to keep going as the physical prime declines. It looks to me as if GGG is now starting to fall back on the "text book" boxing skills he learned as an amateur, especially the jab.

But fortunately for GGG and his fans, he is an excellent technical boxer - and powah is the last thing an aging fighter loses!

[aboutfkntime]

How do you go from knocking out bums to stepping up in competition & struggling a decline? He is what he is....there never was a "decline."

this ^^

[aboutfkntime]

Martinez was in his mid 30's when he peaked, previously KO'd. Wladimir Klitschko was in his mid 30's when he peaked, stopped multiple times. Hopkins was in his mid 30's when he peaked, hit plenty of times. Toney was in his mid 30's and still winning titles in higher weight classes despite being obese, Roy Jones Jr. was 34 and whooping Ruiz's ass at HW only slowing down when he moved down. Calzaghe was in his mid 30's when he peaked. There are numerous real life examples of fighters performing well into their mid 30's.

You talk as if ggg is a shot fighter, he's not. You talk as if ggg hasn't shown the same exact flaws in past fights when he was younger, he has.

Mayweather was 25 when he fought a prime Castillo.
ggg was 30 when he fought a faded Ouma.

ggg was barely 5 years pro when he was 30 years old, he was inexperienced. Murray, Rosado, Ishida, these fights did nothing to prepare ggg for Canelo, but Jacobs did.

The physical decline between a 33 year old ggg and a 34 year old is minuscule and has been more than offset by the experienced gained fighting Jacobs. At the end of the day it's just an excuse, while you say ggg was 34 years old, I can say Canelo had NEVER fought a true middle weight and he hasn't. Amir Khan, Liam Smith and Chavez were not middleweights nor were they proper prep for ggg.

oh shh....

..... AND this !!

[aboutfkntime]

..... so..... ?

all of that " anyone from 154-168 " stuff.....

and all of that " Golovkin is better than Hagler " stuff.....

so, that was all true..... ???

and..... Golovkin was just about to prove it.....

but..... he suddenly got old doe..... ?

..... is that it ?

and, he got old doe..... at the exact same time that he stepped up in competition..... but, that is just a coincidence..... right?



o, k, then.....



and, let me guess..... Lemieux got spanked because he hurt his shoulder..... right?



#excusesarelikeass-holes,everyonehasone

[turnedup]

Martinez was in his mid 30's when he peaked, previously KO'd. Wladimir Klitschko was in his mid 30's when he peaked, stopped multiple times. Hopkins was in his mid 30's when he peaked, hit plenty of times. Toney was in his mid 30's and still winning titles in higher weight classes despite being obese, Roy Jones Jr. was 34 and whooping Ruiz's ass at HW only slowing down when he moved down. Calzaghe was in his mid 30's when he peaked. There are numerous real life examples of fighters performing well into their mid 30's.

You talk as if ggg is a shot fighter, he's not. You talk as if ggg hasn't shown the same exact flaws in past fights when he was younger, he has.

Mayweather was 25 when he fought a prime Castillo.
ggg was 30 when he fought a faded Ouma.

ggg was barely 5 years pro when he was 30 years old, he was inexperienced. Murray, Rosado, Ishida, these fights did nothing to prepare ggg for Canelo, but Jacobs did.

The physical decline between a 33 year old ggg and a 34 year old is minuscule and has been more than offset by the experienced gained fighting Jacobs. At the end of the day it's just an excuse, while you say ggg was 34 years old, I can say Canelo had NEVER fought a true middle weight and he hasn't. Amir Khan, Liam Smith and Chavez were not middleweights nor were they proper prep for ggg.

What age did Martinez start fighting? What age did Golovkin start fighting? Styles make careers son, seriously. Guys who take more damage to the head to be fan friendly do not have long careers. Same as with football players except that boxers face concusive hits mostly all in a short span while football players do so several times a week over their lifetime. Also please don't say SHOT, I never said shot..I said on the decline. Reactionary time is the first thing to go and it's why even Floyd got hit with shots he wouldn't have gotten hit with as much as five years before then and that's arguably the boxer who has taken the least damage in his career. Klitschko? LMFAO, that man was a shell of himself the last 4 to 5 years of his career as well. Was he dangerous? Yes but did he have the same mobility, output? No he had size and blunt power.