Is Lomachenko afraid of Mikey Garcia?

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum
    if mikey garcia is making 3.5 million to fight lipinets....its going to be hard for him to make any fihts against good fighters since he will want all the money and good fighters wont let that happen. loma-linares is more likely to split 50-50 while garcia will want 90-10 so the fight wont happen. they created another monster.
    Good point. Mikey earning $3.5M to Loma's $1.2M versus Rigo is going to stir the leverage to Mikey's advantage. He may insist on a 70/30 split. If it's not a PPV event then there isn't a lot of meat on the bone. However, if Loma's star begins to rise in 2018 and he starts earning the same or more money, this can quickly become a 50/50 fight in terms of purse money.

    Originally posted by filup79
    Loma is not bigger than Mikey, especially in California or Vegas. Mikey would draw bigger crowds that Loma. As for viewers, I hope Loma draws more than Mikey since he's fighting a pretty much free TV. But yet he's fighting in small arenas. I know both of them personally and both want the fight but it all depends on if Arum allows it by not asking for options on Mikey or trying to low ball Mikey. Would you consider it a duck if Mikey and Showtime offered Loma around 1.5 mil plus a percentage to fight Mikey on Showtime PPV and Loma and Arum decline?
    It's tough to say because we have no idea what the PPV numbers would look like. It also depends on the percentage offered to Loma. If the fight does 200K PPVs, that's $15M right there. Loma would be leaving a lot of money on the table and Mikey would stand to make a 90% cut at that rate.

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      #42
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      Good point. Mikey earning $3.5M to Loma's $1.2M versus Rigo is going to stir the leverage to Mikey's advantage. He may insist on a 70/30 split. If it's not a PPV event then there isn't a lot of meat on the bone. However, if Loma's star begins to rise in 2018 and he starts earning the same or more money, this can quickly become a 50/50 fight in terms of purse money.



      It's tough to say because we have no idea what the PPV numbers would look like. It also depends on the percentage offered to Loma. If the fight does 200K PPVs, that's $15M right there. Loma would be leaving a lot of money on the table and Mikey would stand to make a 90% cut at that rate.
      How would Mikey be making 90%? Loma gets offered 1.5-2 mil plus a percentage. If the fight makes 15 million, that would be around 6.8 million for Loma and Mikey camps to split. We would be talking another 2.5-3 million for each to split after their guaranteed purse. I already know that it doesnt matter how much another network offers for the fight, Arum will not accept the deal because he wants to be in charge of everything and put it on ESPN

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        #43
        Originally posted by filup79
        How would Mikey be making 90%? Loma gets offered 1.5-2 mil plus a percentage. If the fight makes 15 million, that would be around 6.8 million for Loma and Mikey camps to split. We would be talking another 2.5-3 million for each to split after their guaranteed purse. I already know that it doesnt matter how much another network offers for the fight, Arum will not accept the deal because he wants to be in charge of everything and put it on ESPN
        Like I said, we don't know what the percentage would be for Loma. $1.5m plus what percent? If it's 10% that's still only an additional $1.5M, so Loma gets $3M and Mikey gets $12M? That's an 80/20 split.

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          #44
          Originally posted by filup79
          He said the same thing after beating Sosa and goes on to bring up Marriaga and Rigo from lower weights to fight instead of moving up and fighting at 135 to acclimate to the weight. If he would have moved up to 135 then a fight with MIkey would be realistic but for now its not. Loma has said Mikey is bigger and he would have to move up and acclimate to 135 before fighting MIkey.
          He only fought rigo because rigo wouldnt stop talking **** and everyone wanted that fight. Now you guys are saying " he dragged up rigo in weight". I dont think loma even gave a **** about rigo that much he always brushed him off. Fans are the ones that demanded the rigo fight claiming he was scared now after rigo got sonned its all lomas fault for bringing him up in weight lol.

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            #45
            Originally posted by RussTBE
            He only fought rigo because rigo wouldnt stop talking **** and everyone wanted that fight. Now you guys are saying " he dragged up rigo in weight". I dont think loma even gave a **** about rigo that much he always brushed him off. Fans are the ones that demanded the rigo fight claiming he was scared now after rigo got sonned its all lomas fault for bringing him up in weight lol.
            of course. the ones who wanted the fight the most are the ones who would complain about it the most after loma beat rigo. i said that before the fight. dont try to please haters cause its not possible. they just gave him an excuse to make an easy payday so i guess thats good for him. reminds me of the idiots saying floyd was ducking bum baldomir. its like......no just no. now you gave him an excuse to fight him. he would have lost to the first real opponent he fought but you had to pretend he was good. instead of focusing attention on marg vs floyd you got sidetracked and let floyd get away with fighting that journeyman bum
            Last edited by daggum; 12-20-2017, 05:14 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum
              of course. the ones who wanted the fight the most are the ones who would complain about it the most after loma beat rigo. i said that before the fight. dont try to please haters cause its not possible. they just gave him an excuse to make an easy payday so i guess thats good for him. reminds me of the idiots saying floyd was ducking bum baldomir. its like......no just no. now you gave him an excuse to fight him. he would have lost to the first real opponent he fought but you had to pretend he was good. instead of focusing attention on marg vs floyd you got sidetracked and let floyd get away with fighting that journeyman bum
              I cant wait to see the excuses when he beats mikey.

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                #47
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Like I said, we don't know what the percentage would be for Loma. $1.5m plus what percent? If it's 10% that's still only an additional $1.5M, so Loma gets $3M and Mikey gets $12M? That's an 80/20 split.
                How would MIkey get 12M. You do know that Showtime takes 10% and the cable providers take 50% from 15M That would leave around 6.8M. You really think Loma would get 10%? Showtime more than likely offer a better percentage while Arum would want more of the money going to Loma and options on Mikey. Only way Arum signs this fight is if he and Loma take most of the money if Mikey doesn't sign over options and Top Rank is the promoter.

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                  #48
                  I think he isn't scared to throw down, but he is probably a little intimidated by Mikey's GIANT CAAAWWWK!!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RussTBE
                    He only fought rigo because rigo wouldnt stop talking **** and everyone wanted that fight. Now you guys are saying " he dragged up rigo in weight". I dont think loma even gave a **** about rigo that much he always brushed him off. Fans are the ones that demanded the rigo fight claiming he was scared now after rigo got sonned its all lomas fault for bringing him up in weight lol.
                    We will see in his next fight, if Loma is serious in fighting Mikey, he should step up to 135 to acclimate to the weight. He fought Rigo ok, but why fight Marriaga if he supposedly wanted a Mikey fight. He could have moved up and fought at 135 after Sosa. Mikey and his brother have stated that they are both willing to fight each other, it just depends on Arum. Mickey's brother is good friends with Lomas manager, Loma trains at Roberts gym that he leased out to Klimas. Even Loma has said he will not fight Mikey in his first fight at 135.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by filup79
                      How would MIkey get 12M. You do know that Showtime takes 10% and the cable providers take 50% from 15M That would leave around 6.8M. You really think Loma would get 10%? Showtime more than likely offer a better percentage while Arum would want more of the money going to Loma and options on Mikey. Only way Arum signs this fight is if he and Loma take most of the money if Mikey doesn't sign over options and Top Rank is the promoter.
                      You can talk mythical numbers all day long, but as of right now, Mikey is earning three times as much as Loma. Question is, will Loma be earning more a year down the road? If he catches up to Mikey in terms of purses, then 50/50 is not unreasonable. If the fight is signed today, it has to be in Mikey's favor. By how much, who knows?

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