Andre Ward did cheat against Sergey Kovaev, but why didn't Kovalev also cheat back?

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  • Buratina
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    #21
    Originally posted by harwri008
    So, basically, you're equating a foul in sporting event to a criminal act?
    Well, things like PEDs or Margarito's loaded wraps are often compared (literally) to "attempted murder in the ring".
    Ok, another example: speeding, if not caught then it's is not speeding?

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #22
      Originally posted by Buratina
      Well, things like PEDs or Margarito's loaded wraps are often compared (literally) to "attempted murder in the ring".
      Ok, another example: speeding, if not caught then it's is not speeding?
      Compared literally to "attempted murder"? Man stop! No one has ever been charged with a crime for using PED's or having loaded wraps.

      Again, a sporting event is not the same category as a criminal act. If you watch football or basketball, there are multiple fouls on any given play. Sometimes the refs call it, sometimes they don't. It's still a foul. You've never seen a team go back and challenge a "foul" that the ref missed and won that argument.

      I don't even why I'm having this conversation.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #23
        It's something I've asked myself.

        Although to be fair, getting whacked in the balls 3 times on the run is going to bend you over double just like it did with Kov. Then the ref jumps straight in and stops it. Not much time for Kov to retaliate.

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        • Graz
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          #24
          Agree with OP. Ward clearly and I mean clearly fouled Ward with low blows. I was just reminded of it when they showed the clip at the end of the Saunders/Lemieux fight. Ward hit Kovalev directly in the balls, no question, blind man (except for the referee) could see it and acknowledge it. Ward is a skilled fighter but one of the dirtiest in the game. Not sure how Kovalev could have retaliated quickly after getting ball struck multiple times on the ropes. Ref didn’t give him a chance to recover so we’ll never know but in all likelihood Ward, the chosen one, would have been given the nod either way.

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          • GrandmasterWang
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            #25
            I guess you're right, Kovalev should have bitten Ward's ear off in hindsight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              thats how these guys always act....its always some conspiracy when golovkin gets a draw or kovalev gets stopped......or if manny loses and claims injury.......but guys like cotto arent allowed to be injured and when loma loses, even though hes one of top ranks prized pets, its the incompetent ref that made him lose
              But golovkin landed jabs doe.

              But kovalev has balls located on his naval doe.

              But saltwater heals torn rotator cuffs it says so in the bible doe.

              Cottos not allowed to have a bicep hanging off doe.

              Loma should win his 2nd fight cos he's hi tech doe.

              Lol I know exactly what you mean in regards to everything you mentioned its disturbing the levels of fanboi/fanatiscism on here sometimes.

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              • TonyGe
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                #27
                It's not just Kovalev and Ward. There been a lot of fights where the guy who is being fouled doesn't respond. If Ward or Horn for that matter did that **** to someone like Duran or Hagler they would either get thumbed in the eye or receive a brutal headbutt in retaliation. I don't understand it.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  Same guys criticising Tony Weeks for letting Ward low blow Kovalev to death are the same ones that praised Tony Weeks when he allowed Maiadana to mua thai knee, rugby tackle, consistently rabbit punch, karate chop, and consistently low blow Mayweather in their first fight.

                  Tony Weeks was such a good ref back then huh? You darn hypocrites!
                  Weeks is horribly inconsistent. He blew both those fights but Ward-Kovalev II is one of the most ridiculous endings of all-time. He'd have gave Golota KO wins over Bowe.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    It's something I've asked myself.

                    Although to be fair, getting whacked in the balls 3 times on the run is going to bend you over double just like it did with Kov. Then the ref jumps straight in and stops it. Not much time for Kov to retaliate.
                    Yeah but there was plenty of fouls prior to that he should have reacted to. Ward was fouling all night. If refereed correctly he probably did enough to be DQ'd. I'm not one that buys into conspiracies but I genuinely believe there was some sort of pre meditated outcome or agreement in this fight and Ward knew about it. There's no other way you have a guy tired and a bit dazed and deliberately land three hand low blows if your playing on a level playing field.

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                    • Vlad_
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SonnyboyReturns
                      Because he knew Ward wasn't actually cheating. He was faking those low blows himself and quit in the end.
                      Are you serious? Bend forward and see the distance between your **** and your belly button shrink 3-4 times. Ward's thumb grazed Kovalev's stomach, so the whole fist smashing right into the **** is fine?

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