Why doesn't GGG dare to be great?

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  • Willy Wanker
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    #41
    Originally posted by mcdonalds
    He's been fighting at 160 his whole career and has yet to move up once.

    Why won't he challenge himself?

    Why was he scared of SOG?

    Is he scared to move up?

    He's 35 years old
    If he moves up now, people will just say he's doing it to avoid Charlo, the Jacobs rematch and that fa*got that calls himself Boo Boo.

    Fans will **** on him regardless, but I'd rather see GGG fight Canelo again, winner of Saunders/Lemiuex and Charlo after. And Jacobs again.

    Whether he does any of that, I really don't know. But those options are better than moving to 168.

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      #42
      Originally posted by bluebeam
      i didnt say he unified i said he was undisputed
      Which wasn't what was being discussed.


      something that golovkin isnt.
      Winning the three most important titles separately is much more difficult than winning all four titles in one fight.


      answer my question. is taylor an all time great at 160?
      In our opinion, no. His reign was brief and full of disputed wins, draws and clear losses.


      taylor's victory over hopkins is bigger than any golovkin win so.......
      Only because GGG was screwed out of his win over Canelo.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #43
        Originally posted by TonyGe
        Canelo beat Lara and Cotto. They put up a fight but they lost. I didn't watch the Trout fight so no comment.
        tony...lets be real...now maybe it wasnt you directly....and maybe you are oblivious to it( i hope you arent)...but when golovkin fans thought canelo was, and was going to continue to, avoid golovkin....they lambasted canelo and said he lost to lara and trout...and many of them also added cotto to that list.....lets not pretend like golovkin fans didnt run around the internet hollering that stuff......dont pretend it didnt happen...i saw it....

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        • New England
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          #44
          because one of the biggest fights in boxing went/goes out the window.

          surely you get that, right? that they box for money?

          yeah, it would be great for him to move up and fight ward at some kind of agreed ewight, or even 175, but ward retired and wasn't anywhere near the draw that canelo is at any point in his career.

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          • bluebeam
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            #45
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Which wasn't what was being discussed.




            Winning the three most important titles separately is much more difficult than winning all four titles in one fight.




            In our opinion, no. His reign was brief and full of disputed wins, draws and clear losses.




            Only because GGG was screwed out of his win over Canelo.


            i agree he edged canelo

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            • Mr Objecitivity
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              #46
              He is a 'great' 160 pound middleweight boxer by virtue of being the best middleweight of the last decade by virtue of having the best middleweight record. So what's your point?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                tony...lets be real...now maybe it wasnt you directly....and maybe you are oblivious to it( i hope you arent)...but when golovkin fans thought canelo was, and was going to continue to, avoid golovkin....they lambasted canelo and said he lost to lara and trout...and many of them also added cotto to that list.....lets not pretend like golovkin fans didnt run around the internet hollering that stuff......dont pretend it didnt happen...i saw it....
                Count me out because Canelo beat Lara with body shots. Honestly I have called Canelo a little weasel in the past. He IMO ****ed Golovkin by giving up the belt rather than fighting him. I give him credit for fighting Golovkin and if he clearly beats him I will give him credit for it. To be clear I have never liked catchweight fights when a title is on the line. In this case Canelo Golovkin and Cotto it created a mess. Cotto and Canelo could have fought at a catchweight non title and still made money. I have a feeling if G wasn't the mandatory for Canelo, Canelo would have defended his title at a catchweight against someone else using his money making potential as leverage. This guy leap frogged over established Middleweights to fight for a title at a catchweight against a guy Cotto who won it at a catchweight. It's absolutely crazy. Admittedly the Cotto Martinez fight was at 159 but still it's nuts. Look at it this way. Say Spence moved up to middleweight and won a couple of fights. Now Thurman arranges a fight for the Middleweight title at a catchweight of 155 bypassing Spence. How the hell is that fair to Spence. Title fights at catchweights are screwing up the divisions.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #48
                  if he moved up youd all cry saying hes running from charlo

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                  • uppercut510
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                    #49
                    If he wins a few more big fights at 160 he will have had a good career, nothing to scream about but hes definately handeled biz. I dont think at this age and how hes looked of late we will see him move up, just have to appreciate what we get as fans

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