Which countries have never produced a world champion?

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  • yngwie
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    #61
    Originally posted by iamboxing
    Brazil? I'm sure they've never had a world boxing champion. They're gifted athletically yet boxing never really took off there like MMA which is weird given boxing is popular in most South American countries.
    Eder Jofre is one of the greatest boxers of all time.

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      #62
      My sweet home of Costa Rica.

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        #63
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
        There are currently 195 countries in the world. That’s a lot of places. No surprise, a very small percentage have had an impact on boxing. Superiority in sports has a lot to do with culture, opportunity and resources. This is a major reason why the United States has been historically dominant in the sport. Mexico became a major player later, for many of the same reasons. Puerto Rico and Cuba, although small geographically, have managed to have an impact due, in part, to their proximity to the US. It’s my opinion that if those small islands were on the other side of the world, their success would’ve been lessened dramatically, perhaps extinguished.

        There are those around here that like to trumpet the “superiority” of blacks in boxing. I don’t think there’s any question blacks have had greater relative success in the sport, but how many of them have come directly from African nations? Not too many. I think it supports my point.

        China and India have the greatest populations on earth, by far. Yet they have essentially produced no one in boxing. It has nothing to do with race. Those people just don’t care about the sport, or, arguably, about sports in general, the way people do in the boxing nations. The Dominican Republic is a good place to focus on. They have a racial makeup very similar to that found in Cuba and Puerto Rico, yet they produce virtually no high level boxers. On the other hand, they produce the greatest baseball players in the world. How do you explain that? In my opinion, they lack one of the necessary ingredients, cultural interest.
        Dominican Republic hasn't produced champs but their amateur boxing is better than Puerto Rico's. Felix Diaz won a gold medal for Dominican Rep. PR has never won a gold in the Olympics. For all of their success in the pros, PR gets beat year after year in the amateurs.

        Frankly, if Cuba didn't have an embargo with the States, it would've been a complete takeover of the pro game. Andy Cruz right now can beat Loma or Crawford at whatever damn weight they want to fight at. People think Rigo is crazy. Andy Cruz just jumped from 123 to 143 and obliterated the division for his first World Championship. He is still young and doesn't have the extensive CV yet but he's the best fighter in the world right now and it's not even close.

        Just like the last Worlds in the AMS, Cuba won 5 golds and 2 silvers out of 10 possible medals. It should've been 6 golds too but they gotta rob them here and there cause it's not supposed to be the Cuban Championships, but the World Championships.
        Last edited by pesticid; 12-08-2017, 10:04 PM.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #64
          Originally posted by pesticid
          Dominican Republic hasn't produced champs but their amateur boxing is better than Puerto Rico's. Felix Diaz won a gold medal for Dominican Rep. PR has never won a gold in the Olympics. For all of their success in the pros, PR gets beat year after year in the amateurs.

          Frankly, if Cuba didn't have an embargo with the States, it would've been a complete takeover of the pro game. Andy Cruz right now can beat Loma or Crawford at whatever damn weight they want to fight at. People think Rigo is crazy. Andy Cruz just jumped from 126 to 143 and obliterated the division for his first World Championship. He is still young and doesn't have the extensive CV yet but he's the best fighter in the world right now and it's not even close.

          Just like the last Worlds in the AMS, Cuba won 5 golds and 2 silvers out of 10 possible medals. It should've been 6 golds too but they gotta rob them here and there cause it's not supposed to be the Cuban Championships, but the World Championships.
          This is true. PR just won their first gold medal ever in any sport in tennis, during the last Olympics. But maybe it’s precisely because their fighters don’t focus on the amateur game that they have so little success there. The same with Mexico. They don’t do that great in Olympic boxing either.

          I do believe that Cubans would have even greater success in the pros if they were allowed to compete freely. The few that have managed to defect are definite proof of that. But, again, it goes back to my original point: culture, opportunity and resources. If Cuba was on the other side of the world, it’s doubtful she’d have such success at boxing, or perhaps anything else.

          You definitely follow the amateurs much more closely than I do. I knew about the last world championships, but you’re right on top of it.

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              #66
              Originally posted by pesticid
              Frankly, if Cuba didn't have an embargo with the States, it would've been a complete takeover of the pro game. Andy Cruz right now can beat Loma or Crawford at whatever damn weight they want to fight at. People think Rigo is crazy. Andy Cruz just jumped from 123 to 143 and obliterated the division for his first World Championship. He is still young and doesn't have the extensive CV yet but he's the best fighter in the world right now and it's not even close.
              Haha... Oh my...

              He lost 0:3 to some 123 pounds Russian guy Dmitriy Asarov in 2015.



              Does Asarov beat Loma and Crawford as well? LOL.

              Cubans didn't do that well on the 2016 Olympics. The best days are probably over for them.

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                #67
                Originally posted by RedZmaja
                Haha... Oh my...

                He lost 0:3 to some 123 pounds Russian guy Dmitriy Asarov in 2015.



                Does Asarov beat Loma and Crawford as well? LOL.

                Cubans didn't do that well on the 2016 Olympics. The best days are probably over for them.
                He was robbed against Asana. Frankly, Crawford lost the first 3 against Gamboa and Loma lost the first 3 against Salido.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by RedZmaja
                  Haha... Oh my...

                  He lost 0:3 to some 123 pounds Russian guy Dmitriy Asarov in 2015.



                  Does Asarov beat Loma and Crawford as well? LOL.

                  Cubans didn't do that well on the 2016 Olympics. The best days are probably over for them.
                  Cuba won three gold and three bronze, for a total of six medals. What more do you want? Haha The only country that did better was Uzbekistan, with a total of seven medals (three gold). Funny thing is — and I don’t know this for certain, but I would be willing to bet — Cuba probably sent coaches and trainers to help with that country’s boxing program.

                  This year, in Germany, Cuba reasserted herself as the juggernaut in world amateur boxing, winning the AIBA Championships with five gold and two silver medals. Uzbekistan came in second with one gold, three silver and two bronze. Kazakhstan came in third with one gold, two silver and three bronze. Doesn’t look like Cuba is easing up to me. Lol

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    Cuba won three gold and three bronze, for a total of six medals. What more do you want? Haha The only country that did better was Uzbekistan, with a total of seven medals (three gold). Funny thing is — and I don’t know this for certain, but I would be willing to bet — Cuba probably sent coaches and trainers to help with that country’s boxing program.

                    This year, in Germany, Cuba reasserted herself as the juggernaut in world amateur boxing, winning the AIBA Championships with five gold and two silver medals. Uzbekistan came in second with one gold, three silver and two bronze. Kazakhstan came in third with one gold, two silver and three bronze. Doesn’t look like Cuba is easing up to me. Lol
                    Uzbekistan bought a bunch of medals these last Olympics.

                    The then president of AIBA t, was in Uzbekistan a couple of months before the Olympics to promote boxing in Uzbekistan. Met with the president of the country and everything.

                    Fazliddin Gaibnazarov from UZB was gifted victories over Garry Russel Jr.'s younger brother, Dunaytsev and Sotomayor. He was gifted 3 victories to get the gold. I think these fights are on youtube too.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by pesticid
                      Uzbekistan bought a bunch of medals these last Olympics.

                      The then president of AIBA t, was in Uzbekistan a couple of months before the Olympics to promote boxing in Uzbekistan. Met with the president of the country and everything.

                      Fazliddin Gaibnazarov from UZB was gifted victories over Garry Russel Jr.'s younger brother, Dunaytsev and Sotomayor. He was gifted 3 victories to get the gold. I think these fights are on youtube too.
                      Very interesting. Wouldn’t surprise me. Amateur boxing seems as prone to corruption as its professional big brother.

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