Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz is All Smiles, King Kong Given a Pass in WBC Final Ruling

[The Gambler1981]

The "dumb F uck" does not have any motivation not to put the drug down. Dumb f uck indeed! that may well answer the question as to the "why." Listen I love to watch Cuban boxing but that does not mean I would go into a rocket that Ortiz had been asked to figure out the placement of mathmatically for landing purposes. Ortiz may not even know how to read for all the f ck all we know.

Why would it be any benefit for Ortiz to do what he did? Would the agency not catch the meds? I don't think he was trying to cheat.

You can never really discount incompetence, so that could be the case and if he has medical documentation to back up his story it will all be there (which seems to be the case). Still, he needs to fire some people over this, you can't have the people that screwed the pooch on this opportunity (then one he really wanted and needed). That would clearly point to incompetence being the cause further rather than just something that was set up as an excuse (if it was an excuse you keep the people involved because they made it work).

Plus with this being the second time he got caught up he should already be well aware of the situation he is in, in that regard. So even just a screw up like this could have been a lot more costly. So if just a screw up some people need to get the ax or at least the chairs shuffled so he has someone looking after these details much better.

[billeau2]

You can never really discount incompetence, so that could be the case and if he has medical documentation to back up his story it will all be there (which seems to be the case). Still, he needs to fire some people over this, you can't have the people that screwed the pooch on this opportunity (then one he really wanted and needed). That would clearly point to incompetence being the cause further rather than just something that was set up as an excuse (if it was an excuse you keep the people involved because they made it work).

Plus with this being the second time he got caught up he should already be well aware of the situation he is in, in that regard. So even just a screw up like this could have been a lot more costly. So if just a screw up some people need to get the ax or at least the chairs shuffled so he has someone looking after these details much better.

Thats a possibility. There are certain patterns that result partially because boxers tend to make very bad businessmen...generally, not always. Also, when Cuban guys come over here it looks like, from the vantage point of a fan at least that they are enabled out the wazoo! I loved Odinare Solise, and kept watching him get fatter and fatter, then watched as he actually was winning the first round against Vitalie before his knee gave out. That really hurt both of us lol.

It seems like nobody wants to be the "Mr Fox" from pulp fiction, the guy who cleans the messes up, the guy who has the job of jack slapping Solise or King Kong and saying, "don't make me make you hurt me big guy but if you don't stop eating sh it we will have a problem!" and its a damn shame as I see so much talent these guys bring to the table.

I would not be suprised if you were right on. I don't know but it does not look, as you indicate, like the team is watching out for Ortiz.

[kushking]

You were talking about people giving fighters a pass when it's their favourite fighter. Name all the posters who have said Ortiz is their favourite fighter.

You Wilder fans keep inventing ****.

You dumb bastard,how the fu** would I know whos someones favorite fighter. Typical strawman argument from you, CLEARLY the dumb ****s arguing that Ortiz wasn't at fault or its wilders fault are fans of Ortiz as opposed to Wilder, therefore hes 1 of their favorite fighters or they wouldn't be making themselves look like dumb **** now would they?

Only a dumb ass strawman would try to say "hes not their #1 favorite fighter so their not being biased & it doesn't apply"


Think before you talk

[Robbie Barrett]

You dumb bastard,how the fu** would I know whos someones favorite fighter. Typical strawman argument from you, CLEARLY the dumb ****s arguing that Ortiz wasn't at fault or its wilders fault are fans of Ortiz as opposed to Wilder, therefore hes 1 of their favorite fighters or they wouldn't be making themselves look like dumb **** now would they?

Only a dumb ass strawman would try to say "hes not their #1 favorite fighter so their not being biased & it doesn't apply"


Think before you talk

No point trying to wheedle out of it. Just admit your post was dumb. :dunce.

[kushking]

No point trying to wheedle out of it. Just admit your post was dumb. :dunce.

You dumb bîtch,I just dont want your ****** ass to report me like the last few cucks. But if you're not going to I can call u the dumb ass u are.

[Robbie Barrett]

You dumb bîtch,I just dont want your ****** ass to report me like the last few cucks. But if you're not going to I can call u the dumb ass u are.

Still hasn't named one poster that is a big fan of Ortiz. But it's fans giving passes to their favourite fighter though.

[Robbie Barrett]

You dumb bîtch,I just dont want your ****** ass to report me like the last few cucks. But if you're not going to I can call u the dumb ass u are.

Still hasn't named one poster that is a big fan of Ortiz. But it's fans giving passes to their favourite fighter though.

Can't be that they have a different opinion based on facts.

[kushking]

Still hasn't named one poster that is a big fan of Ortiz. But it's fans giving passes to their favourite fighter though.

Can't be that they have a different opinion based on facts.

You dumb ****,the FACTS are that Ortiz popped dirty AGAIN for diuretics that are used to clean roids out of shîtbags like his system.

Some people hate Wilder like you do,so they FAVOR Ortiz as they do EVERYONE of his opponents just like u do. Only a dumb **** would argue that Ortiz forgot to report his meds despite HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of athletes of every language,color,creed being given a thorough orientation when they signed up for VADA,IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE,none of them "forgot" unless it was a drug recently banned that they had already reported taking

What bs excuse is it that u consider legitimate? Is it him "forgetting 2 disclose meds" ? As thats a completely disprovable BS excuse that is easily refuted by the FACT that hes been in cbp for a long time & even had prior fights under it without popping dirty 4 hbp pills. Not to mention hes been caught BEFORE & forced to attend ped awareness classes & was even claiming before the fight "he learned his lesson". You truly are a collosal moron to think these ******s aren't Ortiz fanbois/Wilder haters like you.

[Robbie Barrett]

You dumb ****,the FACTS are that Ortiz popped dirty AGAIN for diuretics that are used to clean roids out of shîtbags like his system.

Some people hate Wilder like you do,so they FAVOR Ortiz as they do EVERYONE of his opponents just like u do. Only a dumb **** would argue that Ortiz forgot to report his meds despite HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of athletes of every language,color,creed being given a thorough orientation when they signed up for VADA,IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.

What bs excuse is it that u consider legitimate? Is it him "forgetting 2 disclose meds" ? As thats a completely disprovable BS excuse that is easily refuted by the FACT that hes been in cbp for a long time & even had prior fights under it without popping dirty 4 hbp pills. Not to mention hes been caught BEFORE & forced to attend ped awareness classes & was even claiming before the fight "he learned his lesson". You truly are a collosal moron to think these ******s aren't Ortiz fanbois/Wilder haters like you.

Now it's Wilder haters. But you said it was posters giving their favourite fighter a pass earlier. Make up your mind flip-flopper.

Florida commission doctor confirmed he got the meds at the ER, WBC doctor confirmed Ortiz had a need for the meds looking at his medical history.

He had and took them for a legit medical condition. Only a ****** would argue he didn't. Is the Florida commissions doctor, the WBC and the ER all in Ortiz pocket?

[kushking]

Now it's Wilder haters. But you said it was posters giving their favourite fighter a pass earlier. Make up your mind flip-flopper.

Florida commission doctor confirmed he got the meds at the ER, WBC doctor confirmed Ortiz had a need for the meds looking at his medical history.

He had and took them for a legit medical condition. Only a ****** would argue he didn't. Is the Florida commissions doctor, the WBC and the ER all in Ortiz pocket?

Your truly a dumb bîtch, it's like trying to school a literal ****ing ****** with herpies that wants to keep sleeping with hookers without a condom,thats the level of dumb ****ery talking to you equates to.,get a life you loser.