Comments Thread For: Roach: I Rate Cotto as Best Puerto Rican Fighter of All-Time

[Verus]

American citizens yes but still Puerto Ricans. I guess define "American". They are from a different country which is an unincorporated commonwealth of America. They have dual but are Puerto Ricans first and foremost.

Very hard to define or explain I guess. When I go to Puerto Rico it feels like being in Puerto Rico feels like a much different country despite using US $.

You are right "American" is hard to define. I took the narrow route by defining it by citizenship only. I guess the largest view would be that anyone who lives in either South or North American is "American" by definition. Another view would be to see if Puerto Rico has more in common culturally with other Latin American countries than the USA.

[chrisJS]

You are right "American" is hard to define. I took the narrow route by defining it by citizenship only. I guess the largest view would be that anyone who lives in either South or North American is "American" by definition. Another view would be to see if Puerto Rico has more in common culturally with other Latin American countries than the USA.

Definitely more in common with Latin American cultures. The cuisine, the lifestyle, the culture, the music, the language, the customs basically everything. Like I said when your in Puerto Rico it feels a lot more like other Latin countries.

[GhostofDempsey]

#1 is easily Carlos Ortiz. That shouldn't even be close to being debated.

Trinidad is my 2nd favorite fighter of all-time (behind JMM) but I think it's hard to separate him from Gomez and Benitez. Those three could go in any order depends on how it's broken down. Maybe Trinidad based on being more consistent and having a longer run but Benitez had perhaps the better signature wins and natural ability and probably Gomez had the most devastating run (122) and best win (Zarate) in addition to being the more complete fighter. Hard between those 3.

1. Carlos Ortiz
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2. Wilfredo Gomez
3. Wilfred Benitez
4. Felix Trinidad
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5. Esteban DeJesus
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Jose Torres
8. Edwin Rosario
9. Ivan Calderon
10. Hector Camacho

I haven't seen enough or haven't studied the legacies of Cocao Kid, Jose Basora, Sixto Escobar enough but I see some old-timers put them anywhere from 5-10 in the rankings.

I'd place Torres at the bottom of that list. His best win was a washed up Pastrano, who was never truly great to begin with. He avoided Bob Foster at all costs and lost twice to **** Tiger, a blown up MW. He's more famous for co-authoring an Ali biography than anything else.

[Motofan]

Nah. But he's a bad dude nonetheless. I see him sitting between 3-5.

Edit: Yeah, 5th at best after seeing a few lists with some names I blanked on. Still a great fighter.

[Madison Boxing]

time to get them parkinsons meds reviewed, have lost touch with reality.

[Verus]

Definitely more in common with Latin American cultures. The cuisine, the lifestyle, the culture, the music, the language, the customs basically everything. Like I said when your in Puerto Rico it feels a lot more like other Latin countries.

Yep, they are Latino through and through. Puerto Rico is definitely more like Latin America than it is like Alabama or Nebraska.

[jas]

Obviously not and when he stops ali this weekend it wont change anything in what is a nothing mismatcn

[Verus]

Cotto, is a great fighter and definitely in the top 6 or 7 among Puerto Rico's all-time greats. Given Puerto Rico's great history in boxing, that is saying something. I also want to give a shout out to some lesser known Puerto Rican fighters who were among the best: Edwin Rosario, Juan LaPorte, and Esteban de Jesus!

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I know Roach has trained him before but come on, man. Really?

Putting Cotto ahead of Trinidad is laughable.

[Da Wizard]

The Joke Roach Coach at it again.