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  • #51
    Originally posted by richardt View Post
    You dont understand the basics of the business of boxing which you will learn along the way. The money split is not based on who is a champion or who is not or if both fighters are champions, it is based on what the promoter can get for the fighter and Rigo as fantastic as he is, does not have the advantage of a high-level promoter investing in the value of their fighter. Arum dropped Rigo out of emotion which was not right to do but he saw that Rigo simply could not draw. So for team Rigo to ask for or demand a huge payday - that would not work. It took Arum to make Rigo his second highest payday for the fight to happen.
    of course i know the promoter issue, but was good rigo to refuse because h3 has not to accept a but treatment. You should undersatnd arum alwyas use the same tactic to avoid the deatruxtion of his creaturea. He dont want this fight for loma so made the same, only thia time doent worked

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    • #52
      i want whatever this guy is smoking

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Danar View Post
        All three of those guys are very disingenuous and incredibly biased.




        So you are saying you would rather listen to agenda driven racist jingoistic cowards?

        You must sure hate Teddy!
        Or yourself, I'm not sure...
        Roy is racist and biased? He was the first person I heard question Terence Crawford's elite status on HBO. Which was deserved. He's always calling out guys regardless of race.

        Paulie is italian (not sure what youre suggesting with him) and Ward is biracial (dad is a white guy that raised him) and has never really heaped praise on any guys that I can think of to suggest he favors a certain type of fighter.

        Not sure what Teddy has to do with me. His commentating has been awful for years now.

        Your post was either a serious troll or a sign of mental disability.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by racostaa View Post
          of course i know the promoter issue, but was good rigo to refuse because h3 has not to accept a but treatment. You should undersatnd arum alwyas use the same tactic to avoid the deatruxtion of his creaturea. He dont want this fight for loma so made the same, only thia time doent worked
          Stop being an idiot! This is the same crap people said before that Arum would never allow Loma in the ring with Rigo. Well guess what?? Not only is Arum allowing this, he is paying Rigo 750K.

          And guess who Rigo's two biggest paychecks in his entire life come from? Give up? Arum! You should be worshipping Arum for being alive because there is no way in hell Rigo would ever make the two best paydays of his career if not for Arum. Name one fight that Rigo had where he was paid even 1/3rd of what Arum offered him for each of the two fights! Go ahead and name them. I'll be waiting! Rigo got 120K for his last fight! Tell everyone here what promoter has paid Rigo the same or more money than Arum! You blatantly ignore the fact that NO PERSON ON EARTH has offered Rigo ANYWHERE NEAR what Arum offered Rigo TWICE!

          Arum is your hero now for being the only promoter to ever offer Rigo FIVE TIMES what he got for his last fight. Just stop being so damned ****** and wake up to the facts. If you had any brains you would see what Roc Nation paid Rigo last and have a hissy fit over Roc nation, not the promoter who got Rigo many times more money than he has ever made in his life.

          Stop sounding like a Cuban school girl/fangirl in love with Rigo and having no clue of the business of boxing! Having country pride in Rigo is what you should have...not this girly-like passion for Rigo. Just watch the damn fights stop worrying about Rigo's finances and underwear and socks collection and who feeds him.
          Last edited by richardt; 11-28-2017, 04:32 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
            Roy is racist and biased? He was the first person I heard question Terence Crawford's elite status on HBO. Which was deserved. He's always calling out guys regardless of race.

            Paulie is italian (not sure what youre suggesting with him) and Ward is biracial (dad is a white guy that raised him) and has never really heaped praise on any guys that I can think of to suggest he favors a certain type of fighter.

            Not sure what Teddy has to do with me. His commentating has been awful for years now.

            Your post was either a serious troll or a sign of mental disability.
            It's nit necessarily an either/or hypothesis. Could be both..
            Last edited by TonyGe; 11-28-2017, 04:23 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
              Of course he's better. Sounds like you've let their ethnicity dictate your views. That's common on this board.

              He has a better resume, accomplished more and has been pro less than half the time not to mention exhibiting better all-round skills in the ring.

              GGG didn't get an equal split to Canelo despite being the better fighter. Hopkins didn't get an equal split with Oscar despite being the better fighter.

              Rigo brings no fans, ratings or belts to the party in a Loma match. The offer of $750 for him was over the top and should have been roughly half.
              the lomavhenko resume surely is better than the rigo?. Has rigo lost like lomachenko does with salido?. Why you think lomavhenko is better than rigo?.
              My etnicity is cuban. What is yours that hate so much rigo?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by richardt View Post
                Stop being an idiot! This is the same crap people said before that Arum would never allow Loma in the ring with Rigo. Well guess what?? Not only is Arum allowing this, he is paying Rigo 750K.

                And guess who Rigo's two biggest paychecks in his entire life come from? Give up? Arum! You should be worshipping Arum for being alive because there is no way in hell Rigo would ever make the two best paydays of his career if not for Arum. Name one fight that Rigo had where he was paid even 1/3rd of what Arum offered him for each of the two fights! Go ahead and name them. I'll be waiting! Rigo got 120K for his last fight! Tell everyone here what promoter has paid Rigo the same or more money than Arum! You blatantly ignore the fact that NO PERSON ON EARTH has offered Rigo ANYWHERE NEAR what Arum offered Rigo TWICE!

                Arum is your hero now for being the only promoter to ever offer Rigo FIVE TIMES what he got for his last fight. Just stop being so damned ****** and wake up to the facts. If you had any brains you would see what Roc Nation paid Rigo last and have a hissy fit over Roc nation, not the promoter who got Rigo many times more money than he has ever made in his life.

                Stop sounding like a Cuban school girl/fangirl in love with Rigo and having no clue of the business of boxing! Having country pride in Rigo is what you should have...not this girly-like passion for Rigo. Just watch the damn fights stop worrying about Rigo's finances and underwear and socks collection and who feeds him.
                Arun has no more choise and besides lomachenko has a pride and look for the fight. You can be sure arun doenst want this fight after nonito.
                Im surelu a proud cuban, and you are a racist. No objective reason to hate so much rigo and cubans

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                  Roy is racist and biased? He was the first person I heard question Terence Crawford's elite status on HBO. Which was deserved. He's always calling out guys regardless of race.

                  Paulie is italian (not sure what youre suggesting with him) and Ward is biracial (dad is a white guy that raised him) and has never really heaped praise on any guys that I can think of to suggest he favors a certain type of fighter.

                  Not sure what Teddy has to do with me. His commentating has been awful for years now.

                  Your post was either a serious troll or a sign of mental disability.
                  What a crock of shti.

                  All three of those guys are haters especially Roid.
                  All excuse robberies and cheating. All try to discredit real champions.

                  Roid is so much of a hater he couldn't help but celebrate when manny got kod.

                  He is just jealous he could never be as good as pacman.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                    Arun has no more choise and besides lomachenko has a pride and look for the fight. You can be sure arun doenst want this fight after nonito.
                    Im surelu a proud cuban, and you are a racist. No objective reason to hate so much rigo and cubans
                    Stop the BULLSHT! Not once did I insult Rigo! I even praised him in a reply to YOUR message today dumba$$! Do I have to show you the message from today?? You are just to ****** to see I am talking about the business of boxing! Secondly, Arum IS THE ONE who makes the decision on who his fighters fight! It is in the promoter to fighter contract! Arum chooses the opponent and the site!!! Who the hell do you think puts up the money for a fight so that he can make the decisions as a promoter??!!!! The fighters?? NO!! The arena???? NO! The fighters managers??? NO!! You??? NO. THE PROMOTER PUTS UP THE MONEY!! Get a clue if you have to beg, borrow, or steal one!
                    Last edited by richardt; 11-28-2017, 05:21 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                      the lomavhenko resume surely is better than the rigo?. Has rigo lost like lomachenko does with salido?. Why you think lomavhenko is better than rigo?.
                      My etnicity is cuban. What is yours that hate so much rigo?
                      Well, there you go you are going based on his ethnicity. I don't do that. You are basing being a fan on his being Cuban and not liking Lomachenko because he's not Cuban and probably because he's from Eastern Europe. Like I said that's very common here. You fit in well.

                      He's better at boxing. More skill, better athletic talent, he's fought better opposition. Rigo has one good fight and that was against a guy Walters crushed. Why didn't Rigo step up to fight Salido level opposition in his 2nd fight, Russell level in his 3rd? That "has a loss" is tedious, so is Rigo better than Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran? They lost.

                      Was Mugabi better than Hagler entering their fight due to his "0"? Rigo has fought one opponent and done nothing (apart from duck Loma and god knows who else) since 2013.

                      I don't hate Rigo. Far from it. I just think his fanboys/mostly anti-any euro fighter followers go overboard on one professional win against a guy nearly 5 years ago and since then has barely fought a ranked guy. He's been given a pass on what has been as bad a run as Adonis Stevenson's since then.

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