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  • racostaa
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    #21
    Rigo is another level of real fighter. He is risking everything and looking for this fight as a brave warrior. Lomachenko is looking all possible advantages lkke the weight but he was not able to run anymore with rigo accepting any bad condition for him to make it happen.
    I loved rigo for being a good fighter and for cuban as me, but now iam extremely proud of him no matter what happen.
    For sure if he win thia fight he will be the undisputable number 1 PnP fighter of the world

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    • racostaa
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      #22
      My friend I agree with you. Also with Pedro in his corner im sure they have a very good game plan.
      I admire rigo as a really brave fighter, like no one in this sports made of excuses and coward champions.

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        #23
        I'm excited about it and am making the trip to NYC for it but I think Roy's gone overboard. I don't know how competitive it will be but there is a ton of skill in there and it's a great story that two such decorated amateurs that have shown to be pound for pound level pro's in such a limited time.

        In modern times Marquez-Pacquaio II was perhaps as good as it got on paper. Contrasting styles, great talent levels and two top 3 p4p right in or near their primes. Morales-Barrera also on paper were dream matches. Trinidad-De La Hoya was great on paper, terrible in the ring.

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          It is going to be a great matchup. Great fight? I don't think it will be. It will be technical. Loma should not try to impose his size or he will end up eating lots of sharp left hands.

          I don't think size will have any influence on the outcome.

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          • chrisJS
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            #25
            Originally posted by racostaa
            Rigo is another level of real fighter. He is risking everything and looking for this fight as a brave warrior. Lomachenko is looking all possible advantages lkke the weight but he was not able to run anymore with rigo accepting any bad condition for him to make it happen.
            I loved rigo for being a good fighter and for cuban as me, but now iam extremely proud of him no matter what happen.
            For sure if he win thia fight he will be the undisputable number 1 PnP fighter of the world
            That's not entirely true. Rigo turned the fight down last year at 126 before Loma fought Martinez. He admitted to turning it down and made the excuse on a video that the size difference was too much. I think if I'm not mistaken he was offered $750k and Loma even offered to pay him extra from his purse should he beat him and that was turned down too.

            I'm pretty sure the money is probably the same as what he was offered but he's simply ran out of options at age 37 when since he ducked the fight he fought some bum in England on an undercard and US tv didn't pick it up and then undercard on a PPV that was a bust. He overvalued his worth and overestimated his pull and wanted fighters to come down to 122 and simply turned his nose up at 126.

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #26
              When comparing amateur records. But as pros, no.

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                #27
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                That's not entirely true. Rigo turned the fight down last year at 126 before Loma fought Martinez. He admitted to turning it down and made the excuse on a video that the size difference was too much. I think if I'm not mistaken he was offered $750k and Loma even offered to pay him extra from his purse should he beat him and that was turned down too.

                I'm pretty sure the money is probably the same as what he was offered but he's simply ran out of options at age 37 when since he ducked the fight he fought some bum in England on an undercard and US tv didn't pick it up and then undercard on a PPV that was a bust. He overvalued his worth and overestimated his pull and wanted fighters to come down to 122 and simply turned his nose up at 126.
                You know mofo's ignore the full story to bring focus to their agenda. We just have to keep repeating it..he balked at the offer at a midway point for both men and perhaps they'll stop trying to sweep that under the rug.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  You know mofo's ignore the full story to bring focus to their agenda. We just have to keep repeating it..he balked at the offer at a midway point for both men and perhaps they'll stop trying to sweep that under the rug.
                  Rigo "called him out" then said no to 126. What's Loma supposed to do? Go down to 124? As the A-side no less. Not how calling out works when your calling out from only one division bellow.

                  If you call out from one division which is a whole four pounds then you really must step up that one divisions and four whole pounds when the "challenge" is accepted.

                  But yes your right it will be swept under the rug and even the same folks that swear Rigo dominates will give no praise. Half have got their excuses in order already and ignored the real history half will give no credit despite Loma proving them wrong.

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                  • racostaa
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    That's not entirely true. Rigo turned the fight down last year at 126 before Loma fought Martinez. He admitted to turning it down and made the excuse on a video that the size difference was too much. I think if I'm not mistaken he was offered $750k and Loma even offered to pay him extra from his purse should he beat him and that was turned down too.

                    I'm pretty sure the money is probably the same as what he was offered but he's simply ran out of options at age 37 when since he ducked the fight he fought some bum in England on an undercard and US tv didn't pick it up and then undercard on a PPV that was a bust. He overvalued his worth and overestimated his pull and wanted fighters to come down to 122 and simply turned his nose up at 126.
                    Arum use create humilliating conditions in order to make any self respecting fighter to avoid the fights. Probably wotked out a year ago but not now. There are several ways to avoid a fight, like a purse humiliating condition for instance.
                    Thats the rigos merit. He overcame everything to make the fight under any condition and risking everything

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by racostaa
                      Arum use create humilliating conditions in order to make any self respecting fighter to avoid the fights. Probably wotked out a year ago but not now. There are several ways to avoid a fight, like a purse humiliating condition for instance.
                      Thats the rigos merit. He overcame everything to make the fight under any condition and risking everything
                      I think the offer was between $500-750k that's not a humiliating offer for a fighter who's making around $100k a fight (probably less Im sure the ****ens fight was half of that). Loma even offered the money to round it up to what Rigo wanted and he said no. Saying he should come down to his weight class.

                      Sounds like Rigo found multiple ways to avoid the fight. Maybe he was just smart and avoided the fight to the point where he can have a bunch of ready made excuses but then again even he said "size doesn't matter no excuses".
                      Last edited by chrisJS; 11-28-2017, 12:26 PM.

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