Canelo's Future as a Middleweight

[Slicc]

Stopped reading here.

Ca$hnelo won Round 10-12 on ALL scorecards. What "saving" are you talking about??

Canelo got a draw by fighting hard, sometimes. I think he lost the fight, but 2 of the judges kept him from taking another L on his record. You might disagree, but to each their own. I don't think you should let that stop you from reading the rest of my post, because there's a lot in it that doesn't have to do with Canelo vs GGG.

[Slicc]

Yeah but Canelo’s a LHW remember?! He comes into fights at 180lbs like Jacobs remember!! All while Gennady looks massively bigger than Nelo in the ring yet he only weighs in around 172 max on fight night! Lil’G is god

Maybe I missed something, but when did I claim that Canelo's a light heavyweight? According to Canelo, he fought at around 167-170lb. He's known for looking pretty bulky on fight night, but I don't think his fight night weight has ever been officially disclosed. Regardless, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Whatever weight Canelo rehydrates to, has nothing to do with the size of the opponents he's used to fighting. The middleweights Canelo will most likely wind up facing, are bigger and stronger than the light middleweights he's dealt with so far. Therefore, he most likely won't perform as well at 160, as he did at 154.

[Bjl12]

Canelo got a draw by fighting hard, sometimes. I think he lost the fight, but 2 of the judges kept him from taking another L on his record. You might disagree, but to each their own. I don't think you should let that stop you from reading the rest of my post, because there's a lot in it that doesn't have to do with Canelo vs GGG.

If you say Canelo has STAMINA issues then why did he win last 3 rounds on all scorecards? ??

I think Gennady got a gift and Canelo boxed smart. Canelo had better accuracy and landed more power punches throughout the fight (Ca$h landed 114 and Gennady 110 per compubox).

Unfortunately I can't even entertain anything else you have to say when the first two things you say are wrong:

-Canelo got a gift = dead wrong.
-Canelo stamina issues = won last 3 rounds on all scorecards??? What stamina issues???

[Slicc]

Anddddddd...OP got destroyed

He sarcastically brought up a rumor that is irrelevant to the point I made, and made fun of GGG. How is that destruction?

[Lester Tutor]

Maybe I missed something, but when did I claim that Canelo's a light heavyweight? According to Canelo, he fought at around 167-170lb. He's known for looking pretty bulky on fight night, but I don't think his fight night weight has ever been officially disclosed. Regardless, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Whatever weight Canelo rehydrates to, has nothing to do with the size of the opponents he's used to fighting. The middleweights Canelo will most likely wind up facing, are bigger and stronger than the light middleweights he's dealt with so far. Therefore, he most likely won't perform as well at 160, as he did at 154.

Geeez whaddya know...

But Lil’G fans, when the same supposed theory is applied to him moving to 168(which contextualizing “154-168 ez fomi” was reason enough for boxing fans to criticize, instead we get “you just want him to lose...”

Or

“Wait till ggg Get Nelo on the ropes”
“If Nelo did this with Smith, imagine what Lil’G will do”

Etc etc etc

[Slicc]

If you say Canelo has STAMINA issues then why did he win last 3 rounds on all scorecards? ??

Simple, because the judges thought he won the last 3 rounds. You're appealing to authority, because not everyone agrees with the judges on everything. Besides, even in the late rounds, he was still getting tagged on the ropes, like every round from the 4th onward. He just happened to fight harder for the 1st minute, than he did before.

I think Gennady got a gift and Canelo boxed smart. Canelo had better accuracy and landed more power punches throughout the fight (Ca$h landed 114 and Gennady 110 per compubox).

I saw GGG being the ring general, and Canelo gassing out after the first minute of nearly every round. Power punches aren't the only punches that count. Besides, 4 more power punches is not a big difference, especially when they had GGG landing nearly twice as many jabs. Also, we're not talking about just any jab either; it's been said that GGG's jab is like a power punch. Those jabs were pushing Canelo back for a good portion of the fight. Not only that, but CompuBox is known for being sus. It's literally 2 guys pressing buttons, while watching a match in real time.

Unfortunately I can't even entertain anything else you have to say when the first two things you say are wrong:

-Canelo got a gift = dead wrong.
-Canelo stamina issues = won last 3 rounds on all scorecards??? What stamina issues???

You wrote off my entire post, just because you got offended by my opinion, and a fact. No offense, but I think it's safe to say you have a bias towards Canelo.

[Slicc]

Geeez whaddya know...

But Lil’G fans, when the same supposed theory is applied to him moving to 168(which contextualizing “154-168 ez fomi” was reason enough for boxing fans to criticize, instead we get “you just want him to lose...”

Or

“Wait till ggg Get Nelo on the ropes”
“If Nelo did this with Smith, imagine what Lil’G will do”

Etc etc etc

I don't think it would be smart for GGG to move up, especially this late into his career. There was that whole GGG vs Ward thing, but that was more of a meme, than anything. Moving on to the next part of your reply, Canelo actually did better than I thought he would, against GGG. GGG was messing him up on the ropes, but he got by. Canelo moved much more than he usually does, and proved that he has a solid chin. It's funny that you brought up Canelo vs Smith, because Liam Smith looked like a poor man's GGG in that fight, and he actually staggered Canelo.

[Luilun]

This isn't like the light middleweight division. From now on, Canelo's gonna be fighting guys bigger and stronger than everyone he fought at 154, but we'll see what happens.

In my eyes he just beat the best Middleweight . Let’s remember he’s young and like it or not he improves in every fight so next time he will be even better

[Lester Tutor]

I don't think it would be smart for GGG to move up, especially this late into his career. There was that whole GGG vs Ward thing, but that was more of a meme, than anything. Moving on to the next part of your reply, Canelo actually did better than I thought he would, against GGG. GGG was messing him up on the ropes, but he got by. Canelo moved much more than he usually does, and proved that he has a solid chin. It's funny that you brought up Canelo vs Smith, because Liam Smith looked like a poor man's GGG in that fight, and he actually staggered Canelo.

you donT think it's smart? Yet Abel Sanchez said ''when Gennady moves up in popularity, he's going to have to move up, and it may be at 175....'' (2014)

''not now, Ward is too much for me...'' - Lil'G

I don't which one I like to believe more, that Lil'G was a puss-y to never own up to his capibilities, or they just lied....

I doubt they would lie, Gennady is good enough, has amazing response time on attacks when he's not trolling against weaker opposition as seen against Jacobs and Nelo...

Therefore, it's most likely they're just scared, and feeding off some Mexican legacy that Alvarez brought to him.

If you were Canelo Alvarez, you'd see exactly what LiL'G and Loeffler and Abel have been doing, as Chepo Reynoso said to Abel, ''Abel, you said Tirple G has a Mexican style, but I'm telling you, I, Chepo Reynoso, says that Canelo has style, and HE's Mexican.''

THat's the most classic response, professionally and diplomatic that made Abel shıt in his pants forever on video, and Abel brought that on himself. Reynoso was saying, ''we see what you're doing, but as long as we've coached, I've got the Mexican fighter.''

that shıt just destroyed Abel's pride...and he knows it!'

[Bjl12]

I saw GGG being the ring general, and Canelo gassing out after the first minute of nearly every round. Power punches aren't the only punches that count. Besides, 4 more power punches is not a big difference, especially when they had GGG landing nearly twice as many jabs.

The fact that Canelo landed more power punches while he threw 200 less punches is significant. As much as you want to score "ring generalship" than you need to also score defense and offensive accuracy/efficiency.

Also, we're not talking about just any jab either; it's been said that GGG's jab is like a power punch. Those jabs were pushing Canelo back for a good portion of the fight.

Really? Why did that monster of a jab not hurt Canelo at all during their fight? I mean Gennady landed 108 jabs. You would think 108 "power jabs" as you call them would make an impression of some kind.

Or is his jab just...another jab. As many posters (like myself) have been saying. Sit back fool.

Look at the amazing power, he was landing these kind of shots all night. That's 8 of his landed punches right there, amazing stuff.

Not only that, but CompuBox is known for being sus. It's literally 2 guys pressing buttons, while watching a match in real time.

Saying Compubox is "wrong" actually gives MORE credence to suggesting CANELO won and got shorted. It hurts Gennady as all three judges scored Canelo rounds 10-12 and he got 7 of 9 scorecards of rounds 1-3. There were a couple during the middle of the fight where he won also.

What are you even trying to say? lmfao