Canelo's Future as a Middleweight

[Slicc]

Dayum dawg, you write like hemmigway+ dazai, Kawabata & Dumas...

Act two homie?? F Scott or Pablo Neruda?
Juxtapose and encapsulate then we talk ..

Who are they, and what are you trying to tell me?

[Luilun]

I think Canelo is improving with each fight in time he will clean out the division which will leave many butt hurt haters hating even more. They will be like the Snow Flakes who protest Donald Trump

[Slicc]

Fair assessment but I'd like you opinion on the following:

I didn't get the impression that Andrade had "knockout" power at 160 in his fight versus Fox. Watching the fight, I didn't feel like Andrade punches were that powerful at 160 or at least powerful enough to get GGG's respect for example but time will tell.

Well, Fox is pretty big for a middleweight. Also, if my memory serves me, Andrade couldn't get many good punches in, because Fox was avoiding him for most of the fight. I also believe that time will tell.

As for Saunders, he might have stamina issues himself. To me, the most interesting "sub-plot" of the BJS vs Lemieux fight is "who will be gassed out first". BJS can outbox Lemieux, but he might get caught in the championship rounds if he tires out. However, by the time BJS is vulnerable, Lemieux might himself be gassed out also!

This match caught me off guard. I didn't expect Saunders to take on someone like Lemieux, after claiming that GGG would knock him and Eubank Jr out on the same night.

[Slicc]

I think Canelo is improving with each fight in time he will clean out the division which will leave many butt hurt haters hating even more. They will be like the Snow Flakes who protest Donald Trump

This isn't like the light middleweight division. From now on, Canelo's gonna be fighting guys bigger and stronger than everyone he fought at 154, but we'll see what happens.

[Zaroku]

Who are they, and what are you trying to tell me?

They be the powers behind titles. Power central

You, a young man filled with youthful exuberance


Fake knowledge

[Lester Tutor]

This isn't like the light middleweight division. From now on, Canelo's gonna be fighting guys bigger and stronger than everyone he fought at 154, but we'll see what happens.

Yeah but Canelo’s a LHW remember?! He comes into fights at 180lbs like Jacobs remember!! All while Gennady looks massively bigger than Nelo in the ring yet he only weighs in around 172 max on fight night! Lil’G is god

[Lester Tutor]

They be the powers behind titles. Power central

You, a young man filled with youthful exuberance


Fake knowledge

Lil’g is p4p #1 drained poker faced Middleweight of all time!!! Particularly because he’s massively bigger than Hagler!!!

[Zaroku]

Lil’g is p4p #1 drained poker faced Middleweight of all time!!! Particularly because he’s massively bigger than Hagler!!!

P4P Hagler nuff said

[Bjl12]

To be frank, I think Canelo's stamina will really screw him over at 160. He started off strong against GGG, but his activity took a major hit going into the middle rounds. It got so bad, that the judges had to save him. He has the size of a middleweight, but the other top level middleweights don't gas out like Canelo does. This isn't the first time this has happened, either. Canelo was putting in work on Austin Trout, but slowed himself down to the point that Trout wound up walking him down in the late rounds. If it weren't for the knockdown, the judges might've had to rob him blind. GGG was walking Canelo down too, but for much longer than Trout did. Against GGG, Canelo gave away rounds, because he could only manage to fight hard for like a minute, before going back to getting tagged on the ropes. Canelo was even slouched on his stool, during one of the breaks. I don't think he's gonna be able to deal with guys like Saunders, Jacobs, and Charlo. Hell, if he gasses out against even Lemieux, things could get ugly. If he doesn't do something about his conditioning, even the judges won't be able to help him. Tell me what you guys think, below.

Predictions for potential Canelo matchups

Daniel Jacobs, Demetrius Andrade and Jermall Charlo: I was initially going to do separate sections for each of them, but they all have many of the same advantages over Canelo. All three of them are around 6ft tall, have reaches ranging from 73-74in long, have knockout power, and are technically sound boxers. Canelo's also technically sound, but he's 5'9, and his reach is 70.5in long. If I had to list them from most to least powerful, It'd go like this: Jacobs, Charlo, then Andrade. Canelo's gonna have to work his way past their jabs, land effective punches on the inside, and move out before getting countered. 65-35 Jacobs. 60-40 Charlo. Canelo 50/Andrade 50.

Billy Joe Saunders: Saunders is a slick boxer, but according to his match against Monroe Jr, may get a bit wild with his punches. His reach is longer than Canelo's by an inch, and he's 2 inches taller than him too. I think this would be similar to Canelo vs Lara. Canelo, being the shorter man overall, would probably be the one pressing the fight. Saunders would probably be looking to counter Canelo coming in. Saunders looked pretty bad against the guy he fought before Monroe Jr, and hasn't been very active either, so I think Canelo has the edge. 55-45 Canelo.

David Lemieux: Lemieux's an inch taller than Canelo, and his reach is a 1/2 inch shorter. Lemieux's a pretty basic boxer. He pretty much just applies pressure until he knocks his opponent out, or vise-versa. GGG and Lemieux are similar in terms of power, but GGG couldn't stagger Canelo, so I doubt Lemieux would either. Lemieux has a solid chin, so I don't think he'd be afraid of Canelo's power. I think this match would go similarly to Canelo vs GGG, except Lemieux would probably take many more hits than the latter did. 60-40 Canelo.

GGG (rematch): GGG chased Canelo onto the ropes, and tagged him a bunch of times. Canelo did take the early rounds pretty easily, but he gassed out. He also did land some clean shots throughout the fight, but they were mostly few and far between. If Canelo doesn't gas out so early, he has a good chance at beating GGG by decision. However, stamina has been Canelo's issue for a while, so I don't think it's gonna be improved. I see a rematch going similar to how their actual fight went. 60-40 GGG.

Stopped reading here.

Ca$hnelo won Round 10-12 on ALL scorecards. What "saving" are you talking about??

[Bjl12]

This isn't like the light middleweight division. From now on, Canelo's gonna be fighting guys bigger and stronger than everyone he fought at 154, but we'll see what happens.

Yeah but Canelo’s a LHW remember?! He comes into fights at 180lbs like Jacobs remember!! All while Gennady looks massively bigger than Nelo in the ring yet he only weighs in around 172 max on fight night! Lil’G is god

Anddddddd...OP got destroyed