Who was the more proven fighter...

[Real King Kong]

Ggg before he faced Jacobs or kovalev before he faced ward?

I always recall ggg being constantly called a hype job who fought nobody, yet kovalev seemed to get respect despite having a week resume and lots of hype. Would it be the opposite if ggg had signed to fight ward instead of kovalev?

Someone please explain why kovalev wasn't an "overrated hype job".

[Real King Kong]

So nobody knows why ggg has always been a bum but kovalev was the real deal?

[Redd Foxx]

Kovalev was more proven. BUT, in relation to the subject, you're right. Kovalev was hyped a bit too much on Hopkins and Pascal wins. People said ****** things like him already having faced people on Ward's level but Ward never faced anyone like him. Well, truth came out and it was what I said all along. Kovalev is really good. But, he lacked inside game and his stamina was shaky.

Now that we've seen their ceilings, looking back, I think they're both about as good as I expected them to be, maybe just slightly less. Neither is a hype job. Neither is incredible. Both are really good fighters.

[Real King Kong]

Kovalev was more proven. BUT, in relation to the subject, you're right. Kovalev was hyped a bit too much on Hopkins and Pascal wins. People said ****** things like him already having faced people on Ward's level but Ward never faced anyone like him. Well, truth came out and it was what I said all along. Kovalev is really good. But, he lacked inside game and his stamina was shaky.

Now that we've seen their ceilings, looking back, I think they're both about as good as I expected them to be, maybe just slightly less. Neither is a hype job. Neither is incredible. Both are really good fighters.

I can get with that...I feel like ggg is the more well rounded fighter, if anything kovalev was the more overrated fighter. He didn't quite resonate with fans the way ggg seemed to, but he fell further short than what he was touted to be.

[pacmanis1]

Ggg before he faced Jacobs or kovalev before he faced ward?

I always recall ggg being constantly called a hype job who fought nobody, yet kovalev seemed to get respect despite having a week resume and lots of hype. Would it be the opposite if ggg had signed to fight ward instead of kovalev?

Someone please explain why kovalev wasn't an "overrated hype job".

For starters Kovalev had a smaller window between where the hype began and where it ended. GGG hype began earlier and lasted longer.

Second, Kov beat Hopkins which was a great win even if it was an old Hopkins.

Third, Kovalev never had that the division is ducking him thing going. You could claim Stevenson, but he wasn't on a p4p level like Martinez, Cotto, or Canelo. And then you had guys like Quillin and Murray who didn't want to face GGG and weren't elite anyway.

Fourth, nobody claimed Kovalev was an ATG 175lber. People were making threads about GGG vs Hagler. People just admitted that Kovlev was a top 3 p4p fighter when Mayweather and Pacquiao were out of the picture and nobody in the sport had made any real claim to greatness.

[Scipio2009]

Ggg before he faced Jacobs or kovalev before he faced ward?

I always recall ggg being constantly called a hype job who fought nobody, yet kovalev seemed to get respect despite having a week resume and lots of hype. Would it be the opposite if ggg had signed to fight ward instead of kovalev?

Someone please explain why kovalev wasn't an "overrated hype job".

Kovalev fought Cleverly in England, fought an aging Bernard Hopkins and basically skunked him, fought a sliding Jean Pascal, and took on a known world-level fighter in Chilemba.

Kovalev had been put in the ring in live fights, and had come out on top.

Who could you have pointed to who'd been worth fighting before the Jacob's fight?

[Real King Kong]

Kovalev fought Cleverly in England, fought an aging Bernard Hopkins and basically skunked him, fought a sliding Jean Pascal, and took on a known world-level fighter in Chilemba.

Kovalev had been put in the ring in live fights, and had come out on top.

Who could you have pointed to who'd been worth fighting before the Jacob's fight?

Outside of hopkins who was so past his prime he was irrelevant, who are those guys really? I mean really if we called former belt holders and contenders ggg beat bums...who are those guys. It's just a case of people picking and choosing which names get recognition.

[Scipio2009]

Outside of hopkins who was so past his prime he was irrelevant, who are those guys really? I mean really if we called former belt holders and contenders ggg beat bums...who are those guys. It's just a case of people picking and choosing which names get recognition.

Pascal and Chilemba had both shown themselves to be world-level operators before stepping in with Kovalev.

Looking through Golovkin's entire run, the only time that he stepped in with a fighter who had already proven to be truly be world level was earnestly the Daniel Geale fight.

[john l]

Ggg before he faced Jacobs or kovalev before he faced ward?

I always recall ggg being constantly called a hype job who fought nobody, yet kovalev seemed to get respect despite having a week resume and lots of hype. Would it be the opposite if ggg had signed to fight ward instead of kovalev?

Someone please explain why kovalev wasn't an "overrated hype job".

Because he beat a name in Hopkins.Now Hop was bound to get old at some point but the eye test I think said he was not shot(obv not close to prime either)so I think based on that name which GGG did not have at time was prob the difference.

[john l]

Pascal and Chilemba had both shown themselves to be world-level operators before stepping in with Kovalev.

Looking through Golovkin's entire run, the only time that he stepped in with a fighter who had already proven to be truly be world level was earnestly the Daniel Geale fight.

Macklin and was top 10 so was Murry no killers but ranked fighters even Rubio I think was ranked at bottom of most top 10s