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  • WesternChamp
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    #71
    Originally posted by john l
    Dude getting KOED don't hurt.Its not like he was in pain for even a week.Maybe a little headache for a day or 2.That was clean KO I bet he did not feel a thing(except from just the fight itself and that don't take that long to get over either unless you got injury like broken socket,jaw,cheekbone or something.
    im not talking about pain from the ko. the pain doesnt last but the affect does. he needed to clear his head. try getting knocked out like that and tell me the next day that your mind is still fresh.

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    • john l
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Yes we all do. Then there is you, kuyukut, spoon23 and a few others in NSB's "Flat Earth" Squad, that pretend Manny won.
      agree.............

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      • john l
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        #73
        Originally posted by daggum
        floyd lost that fight. his own corner knew it. he also refused a rematch even though it would have made him another 200-300 million dollars. and that was the old more tentative pac so that says a lot to be outboxed by him. if it was easy work you think floyd wouldn't have been outlanded by a wide margin with clean punches...but alas he was. just couldnt get anything going for whatever reason. he didnt hesitate to let his hands go against conor. something pac did made him very scared to let his hands go. only showing weak single shots that often came up short or barely grazed pac. pac was in control that night. took his time, avoided floyds weak shots, landed the flush punches. poor scoring
        Dude just stop already NO ONE thinks Pac won that fight.Show me ONE expert,writer,trainer,fighter who thinks that???

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        • john l
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          #74
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          im not talking about pain from the ko. the pain doesnt last but the affect does. he needed to clear his head. try getting knocked out like that and tell me the next day that your mind is still fresh.
          next day?? he had months or years to get it fixed if he had serious injury.

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          • Reloaded
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            #75
            Originally posted by djtmal
            Why after looking after this list, am I still looking for the prime, all-time great fighters, Floyd has beaten.
            Floyd was the same prime as the guys he beat.

            Your idea of prime is good for talk, in a boxing ring true prime might only be one fight, the prime of elite fighters is over a long time because they mature and become more rounded and less explosive.

            Floyds physical prime was 135 where he was blowing everyone out, as he went up in weight his speed decreased and his timing improved as did his experience, prime is two fold its mental and physical and often those align only for a short period that puts you in the zone on the night.

            Fans talk prime to suit their agenda, its actually a variable thing.

            ATG is just an opinion and you don't have to beat one or ten to prove you are one of the greatest fighters in history, you only have to beat the best available elite fighters in a way that displays greatness and then you are, it don't need a dumb ass fan talking about rhetorical nothings that's just fan BS.

            Watch the fights is all you gotta do, watch and take notice of weights, form going into a fight, technique, dedication to training and conditioning and then the last hurrah for a ATG status is longevity, simply because BS cannot last over time it will always fall over with time, no argument because that's the law of the jungle in the real world, karma will catch you sooner or later.

            You idiots come in with all this BS as to why Floyd beat everyone, and the mental side is its not about Floyd its about your flaws as a person, you are either as dumb as dog sht and truly cannot see his ability, or youre a shallow hating fool that lives in denial to not face you were wrong, wrong is your security blanket and you cant throw it away. I cannot imagine being a hater as it undermines ones character as to whats real, it when life questions you, its where truth becomes BS and as a person you chose.

            I followed boxing for 50 yrs and Floyd Mayweather is one of the very best to ever box, without a doubt the best of this era, take any 135-154 boxer of this era and Floyd beats every guy on every resume, he beats everyone on Mannys resume and would stop Barrera and Morales at 135, and that's not shting on them, Floyd is the real deal that's why kept winning.

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            • john l
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              #76
              I will always believe in my heart that he was juicing since Diaz fight.Im not gonna get into all reasons now(I know i posted them before).But he was already a HOF fighter before that.But can anyone name a fighter who went from 122(forget about 112 and skipping 2 div)to 147-150 and kept power and speed going up.I mean even Hearns(who had the perfect body to move up lost power at 168-175)Armstrong never was that kind of fighter and he was big for 126 he just overwhelmed guys with stamina and never weighed much more then 140-44.I mean Pac had as much if not more power at 140-47.No way should a jr feather spark a good chinned guy like Hatton like that.Much less what he did to Cotto and Marg's face at 150.And then it seemed to go away(even though power is last thing a fighter losses)after people started calling him out.And also the 1st excuse for Floyd fight in 2010 why would his 1st response be to being tested be a LIE.I mean NO WAY is he afraid of needies(look at tats)just think about that really think about it.What poss reason is their for him to LIE.Any ways I guess I still got carried away and listed all this but was a great fighter before I think he was even on PEDs.But he never failed a test so it is what it is but deep down I don't give him all the props that somone with his resume should warrant.

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              • mcdonalds
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                #77
                Originally posted by djtmal
                Lmao..........
                Your Floyd hate is unhealthy. Blame PEDMAN for being addicted to roids and being scared to accept a fight under clean circumstances

                PEDMAN will never be as good at mayweather. Get over it

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                • killakali
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by john l
                  Who knows if he did?And that could have been a minor injury like original poster said.He just made some huge money and good time to take some time off and get fixed or he got hurt in last 20 sec of fight because was using arm ALL FIGHT.
                  just google it. the dodgers surgeon performed the surgery

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Yes we all do. Then there is you, kuyukut, spoon23 and a few others in NSB's "Flat Earth" Squad, that pretend Manny won.
                    Add me in..

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #80
                      Much respect to Manny for a brilliant career. I'm not a fan of catchweights so that's a negative for me at least but looking at all he accomplished it's remarkable.

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