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  • #41
    Originally posted by BoxingTrav View Post
    Miguel Cotto is one of the best of the era.

    He was a terrific fighter, fought all comers, gave it his all and had so much skill. His jab and left hook were special.

    He is the unfortunate victim of two controversial beatdowns.

    Margarito with the plaster in his gloves. Margarito did eat powerful punches from Cotto but he was cheating. That altered Cotto's career. Because of that fight he started getting on his bicycle when he was hurt instead of staying in the pocket more.

    The Pac fight is also controversial. Manny rag tagged this guy in a way that no one else ever did. I wanted to just say that Manny was just in the zone at that time but there will always be that doubt because that is that last person that Manny stopped and it was ironically the last fight he fought without the stigma of steroidal prefight.

    We can't build up Pac and Margarito and omit their wins against Cotto. We can't declare that Floyd was afraid to fight he top welters so he retired and at the same time besmirch Miguel. Doesn't work that way.

    Cotto beat alot of good fighters.

    Definite Hall of Famer
    Exactly.


    "But though, Cotto is overrated because he could not beat plaster wraps and magic Manila Roid-Rice..."

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Kuyukut View Post
      no doubt he's a good fighter but in fairness to him he perfected the form of... taking a knee.
      the funny thing is the more he got bludgeoned into defeat the more popular he got

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      • #43
        Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
        Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
        1. Lost to Floyd
        2. Lost to Canelo
        3. Lost to Pac
        4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
        5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
        6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
        7. Went life and death with Torres
        8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
        9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
        10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins

        I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???
        Yea you're right...anyone who gets hurt by Corley is straight trash.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
          Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
          1. Lost to Floyd
          2. Lost to Canelo
          3. Lost to Pac
          4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
          5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
          6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
          7. Went life and death with Torres
          8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
          9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
          10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins

          I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???
          You are totally correct. Cotto was always over-rated and was run out of several divisions because he has a questionable beard. Torres ran him out of 140 and Pacquiao ran him out of 147.

          Never liked Cotto much.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by DramaShow View Post
            you also forgot that he only sc****d past malignaggi and he won a SD against clottey where he got outlanded and had a far lower connect ratio clottey. Hes not a hall of famer for me, theres no prizes handed out for competing, either you win or you dont and a lot of these elite fighters beat him pretty easily to be honest, they werent close fights.
            Agreed, Cotto gets too much credit for being a tough competitor, as Mayweather would say. Just look at this thread. Every other comment is, "Cotto gave it his all everytime doe!!!"

            Doesn't matter how hard you're trying, if you're not succeeding you're not succeeding.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
              Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
              1. Lost to Floyd
              2. Lost to Canelo
              3. Lost to Pac
              4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
              5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
              6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
              7. Went life and death with Torres
              8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
              9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
              10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins

              I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???
              #4 Low blow against Zab. It was the turning point in the fight.
              I agree.He's a good fighter tough determined but overrated.

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              • #47
                Mosley was 100% robbed in this fight; it was a close fight, but he damn sure pulled out the victory! Boxing can be extremely crooked! Mosley was at the tail end of his career & Cotto was nine years younger, so he had way more fights to give & the win made him that much more marketable going forward when Mosley likely had less than a handful left in him and possibly less with him being anywhere close to being at his peak especially considering how much he relied on speed!

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                • #48
                  I wasn't the biggest fan of his, and I did think at the time he was overrated, because a lot of his fanboys used to try and sneak him into the same class as Floyd and Pacquiao, when he was very obviously in that tier below with Mosley and Margarito etc. Also he got lucky with his win against Martinez that Martinez was as shot as David Haye vs Tony Bellew but again, his fanboys celebrated like it was a legitimate win.

                  That said there's no doubt Cotto was an exceptional fighter, there was a lot to like about his style in the ring, and he always looked to challenge himself.

                  I appreciate him and his library of fights more now that his fanboys have long gone.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
                    Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
                    1. Lost to Floyd
                    2. Lost to Canelo
                    3. Lost to Pac
                    4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
                    5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
                    6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
                    7. Went life and death with Torres
                    8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
                    9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
                    10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins
                    11 Austin Trout took his belt, later to get robbed by Canelo in open scoring and smoked and classed by Lara

                    I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???
                    Eleven.

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                    • #50
                      cotto is a HOF'er!! put some respect on his name!!

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