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  • #31
    Originally posted by mani1 View Post
    No that honour goes to paper champ Carl Froch.
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????

    Abraham
    Bute
    Kessler
    Pascal
    Groves (2X)
    Glen Johnson
    Dirrell
    Taylor

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko View Post
      ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????

      Abraham
      Bute
      Kessler
      Pascal
      Groves (2X)
      Glen Johnson
      Dirrell
      Taylor
      Abraham lol his best win is?

      Bute paper champ best win? Bika lol

      Lost to a faded 1 eyed Kessler coming off a bad beating and barely beat if that a shot Kessler

      Pascal 50/50 could of gone thee other way fight beaten no one other than Dawson or Bute at 175 who has he beaten at 168?

      Groves lol

      Johnson pensioner whats his record at 168

      Direll disgraceful gift

      Taylor lost 2 of his last 3 his only win against bum Lacy. Has he even wona fight at 168?
      Last edited by mani1; 11-19-2017, 10:55 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
        Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
        1. Lost to Floyd
        2. Lost to Canelo
        3. Lost to Pac
        4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
        5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
        6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
        7. Went life and death with Torres
        8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
        9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
        10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins

        I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???

        Thats a huge understatement. Sergio wasnt just old and past it, he literally could barely walk, he went into the fight with major knee problems and was ***ing limping around trying to fight near prime cotto. Sergio's team should have postponed the fight but they wanted to cash out.

        Also cotto had the same struggles in his margo rematch as the first fight, he got lucky that margo had a broken unhealed eye socket for him to target. I think cotto would have lost the rematch without an eye socket to target.

        Two of his biggest wins are against guys with severe injuries before the fight even started. Then hes got the mosley 'win' which was a draw or loss. Whats his real best win, jab judah?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by P4PGOD View Post
          Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why
          1. Lost to Floyd
          2. Lost to Canelo
          3. Lost to Pac
          4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption)
          5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after)
          6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time
          7. Went life and death with Torres
          8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez
          9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop
          10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins

          I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???
          If you're going to do such a thread, please do it correctly for maximum impact.
          1. Got beat by Canelo, who TBE schooled
          2. Took a knee against Margacheato, who Paul Williams schooled
          3. Beat a crippled and greatly damaged Sergio Martinez


          Losing to two of the greatest shouldn't count against him.
          Canelo is borderline but frankly, Cotto should have beaten him with ease as slow as Canelo is. Every other one you called out resulted in a decisive victory ("no matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it."), and thus should not count against him either.

          The only thing that should mark Cotto for life is his facial reaction when asked in the ring if he wanted to fight Golovkin. That should follow to retirement and afterwards.

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          • #35
            no doubt he's a good fighter but in fairness to him he perfected the form of... taking a knee.

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            • #36
              He was a good fighter, that's all. His status within the game was always greater than his actual ability and wins.

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              • #37
                Cotto is a bit overrated by some Puerto Rican fans, but he's still a great fighter. He's not an ATG, but he was one of the best from his era.

                He belongs in the Hall of Fame and he's one Puerto Rico's top fighters ever, which is quite the accomplishment considering Puerto Rico's great boxing history.

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                • #38
                  Miguel Cotto is one of the best of the era.

                  He was a terrific fighter, fought all comers, gave it his all and had so much skill. His jab and left hook were special.

                  He is the unfortunate victim of two controversial beatdowns.

                  Margarito with the plaster in his gloves. Margarito did eat powerful punches from Cotto but he was cheating. That altered Cotto's career. Because of that fight he started getting on his bicycle when he was hurt instead of staying in the pocket more.

                  The Pac fight is also controversial. Manny rag tagged this guy in a way that no one else ever did. I want to just say that Manny was just in the zone at that time but there will always be that doubt because that is that last person that Manny stopped and it was ironically the last fight he fought without the stigma of steroidal use prefight.

                  We can't build up Pac and Margarito and omit their wins against Cotto. We can't declare that Floyd was afraid to fight he top welters so he retired and at the same time besmirch Miguel. Doesn't work that way.

                  Cotto beat alot of good fighters.

                  Definite Hall of Famer
                  Last edited by BoxingTrav; 11-19-2017, 12:03 PM. Reason: Didn't proofread

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                  • #39
                    I agree he's overrated but it's a joke if you think he's only borderline for HOF.

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                    • #40
                      Damn... If only Canelo would have KO'd Cotto or at least beat GGG, we'd be spared these bitter threads.

                      "How can I feel better about my flag...I know, I will pretend Cotto is overrated even though at age 35, out-weighed by 15 lbs and out of prime, he STILL gave Canelo a gift/draw.... I will post a dumb thread on the forum today..." ~ Desperate peasant # 4848403



                      Build it now...
                      Last edited by PeasantCrusha; 11-19-2017, 11:56 AM.

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