Many of you are sounding like promoters..
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Ok ok...cool...Am not here to please anyone, I hate nationalist posters. People who get on a bandwagon because of someone elses race, passport, fighting style etc I cannot stay some of those posters that i saw whining on here last week. So for me its about being me and cutting it down the middle.Comment
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Can you imagine if Thurman was British and he said he needed 2 fights before he fought Spence. Jeeez, PBC crew would be going mental.Comment
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Please leave Joshua ALONE YALL! he only has three belts! ok he beat a guy we claimed was the best in Klitschko, but...but...that was different! Deontay needs to fight Dillian Whyte! and take 10 percent of the split or hes DUCKING! and we are not leaving the UK so there!Comment
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Lmao this Is to funnyTake this bull **** to fight hype you’re making sense. Stop it... I’m playing Jesus Christ they should open a forum for guys to talk ratings, purse splits, hot dog sales and Spence’s *******. And let us morons talk about fights, blood and glory. I care about the guys in The trunks not the suits. Great postComment
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Or if Tank Davis was British and after he won a world title his promoter had said he was only a kid and there was no way he was going fight Loma.
Or if BJS had won a SMW ritle at a 161 catchweight then refused to fight his mando at 168 because he wasn't a SMW.Last edited by kafkod; 11-10-2017, 10:39 AM.Comment
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My question is why does Wilder "NEED" to fight Whyte? What makes Whyte "the man" to beat in order to "get" Joshua. I actually like Joshua as a fighter. He seems like a cool guy in interviews. He's got a lot of upside. I have no major problem with him in particular. I just have a problem with Joshua, Hearn and their team's approach that Wilder, another champion, "NEEDS" their pawn in order to fight him.
Joshua's win vs Wlad was great. I mean great. As Wlad said, Joshua the champion was born that night. However, it was a Wlad that had already lost to Fury. Joshua was defending a title he won vs Martin. Joshua isn't some long reigning dominant HW legend. He's at the beginnings of building some sort of Legacy. Wilder doesn't have a "Wlad" on his record. That's particular him and his team's fault. However, Fury isn't available.
This fight needs to happen asap. It's clear that Joshua's promotional upside is greater than Wilder. Joshua will sell out stadiums. He's easy to sell to talkshow hosts. Clean cut guy. They're pushing that image of him and it makes them money. So it's clear that they feel they don't need Wilder. I get that, but what does that do to the credibility of the sport?
My purpose of this post was to find out why Boxing fans are supportive of this whole "Wilder 'needs' to prove himself vs Whyte before Joshua" argument. No Wilder doesn't have Wlad on his record, but last time I checked Wilder is a tall, confident, KO artist with a title. I don't see where Whyte became the definitive litmus test for another champion to fight another champion. Whyte is just another fighter that Joshua has beaten. To me his no different than Stiverne.
The only argument for Whyte is that he's British, so yes beating him may help put Wilder in front of AJ's british fans and it will make more money. I guess that's all some fans care about now rather than taking advantage of the fact that both men are hot tickets right now, both are undefeated, only one fight went the distance between them, both have titles and both are hungry for glory. It's sad when that doesn't matter anymore.Last edited by TyrantT316; 11-10-2017, 10:56 AM.Comment
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It honestly blows my mind. Think about this. People are getting upset because Wilder is calling Joshua out and proceed to trash him. And Wilder fans trash Joshua. It’s like, do you want the fight to happen?The same promoters that Boxing fans used to speak out against for protecting fighters. The same fans that bash fighters for not wanting to fight the best.
Joshua's record was nothing to praise before he got a consolation fight vs Wlad after Fury backed out. He received a bit opportunity, got off the floor and won big.
Wilder won his title and wants a big fight vs Joshua who many call THE Heavyweight Champion. Why is he being bashed for it? Sure you can look down his record as well, but why are some of you fans playing promoter, giving them reason to not put on this necessary HW fight while they are both undefeated? Since when did some of you care and WANT a fight to be staved off for a couple of years so that it can be "the biggest fight possible"?
So you'd rather wait another year or so for the possibility of either Joshua or Wilder losing/looking poor in a performance or two as opposed to making it happen right now? Trilogies have been built on fights happening early rather than manufacturing a fight when both men are ready to retire.
I guess some of you really do like Bob's "let it marinate" strategy...Comment
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