Many of you are sounding like promoters..

[TyrantT316]

The same promoters that Boxing fans used to speak out against for protecting fighters. The same fans that bash fighters for not wanting to fight the best.

Joshua's record was nothing to praise before he got a consolation fight vs Wlad after Fury backed out. He received a bit opportunity, got off the floor and won big.

Wilder won his title and wants a big fight vs Joshua who many call THE Heavyweight Champion. Why is he being bashed for it? Sure you can look down his record as well, but why are some of you fans playing promoter, giving them reason to not put on this necessary HW fight while they are both undefeated? Since when did some of you care and WANT a fight to be staved off for a couple of years so that it can be "the biggest fight possible"?

So you'd rather wait another year or so for the possibility of either Joshua or Wilder losing/looking poor in a performance or two as opposed to making it happen right now? Trilogies have been built on fights happening early rather than manufacturing a fight when both men are ready to retire.

I guess some of you really do like Bob's "let it marinate" strategy...

[Raggamuffin]

The same promoters that Boxing fans used to speak out against for protecting fighters. The same fans that bash fighters for not wanting to fight the best.

Joshua's record was nothing to praise before he got a consolation fight vs Wlad after Fury backed out. He received a bit opportunity, got off the floor and won big.

Wilder won his title and wants a big fight vs Joshua who many call THE Heavyweight Champion. Why is he being bashed for it? Sure you can look down his record as well, but why are some of you fans playing promoter, giving them reason to not put on this necessary HW fight while they are both undefeated? Since when did some of you care and WANT a fight to be staved off for a couple of years so that it can be "the biggest fight possible"?

So you'd rather wait another year or so for the possibility of either Joshua or Wilder losing/looking poor in a performance or two as opposed to making it happen right now? Trilogies have been built on fights happening early rather than manufacturing a fight when both men are ready to retire.

I guess some of you really do like Bob's "let it marinate" strategy...

Well said bro...

[PsychoPat]

I'm a promotor, big advocate of Oscars "marination" I bought a couple of fighters recently I'm in the process of setting up bebo and ******* pages for them. To get with the times I could put them on Craigslist also.

[Ray*]

Who is “Bashing” Wilder for wanting to fight for all the belt? Talk is cheap, he took him 9 years to finally want to step up great!!! The irritating thing is people crying after a few days about “He don’t want it yall” “What are they scared of yall” “They are protecting him mayne”. We all want the fight, calm down, pipe down, negotiate the fight and let’s move on.

[kafkod]

The same promoters that Boxing fans used to speak out against for protecting fighters. The same fans that bash fighters for not wanting to fight the best.

Joshua's record was nothing to praise before he got a consolation fight vs Wlad after Fury backed out. He received a bit opportunity, got off the floor and won big.

Wilder won his title and wants a big fight vs Joshua who many call THE Heavyweight Champion. Why is he being bashed for it? Sure you can look down his record as well, but why are some of you fans playing promoter, giving them reason to not put on this necessary HW fight while they are both undefeated? Since when did some of you care and WANT a fight to be staved off for a couple of years so that it can be "the biggest fight possible"?

So you'd rather wait another year or so for the possibility of either Joshua or Wilder losing/looking poor in a performance or two as opposed to making it happen right now? Trilogies have been built on fights happening early rather than manufacturing a fight when both men are ready to retire.

I guess some of you really do like Bob's "let it marinate" strategy...

Nobody is bashing Wilder for wanting to fight AJ! It's all this ridiculous crying about AJ ducking him that people are bashing Wilder for, and for turning down a fight with Dillian Whyte that could have made the Joshua fight bigger. And for saying "I'm not interested in money .. give me $7million and I'll do it"

[Lopez_Boxing]

The same promoters that Boxing fans used to speak out against for protecting fighters. The same fans that bash fighters for not wanting to fight the best.

Joshua's record was nothing to praise before he got a consolation fight vs Wlad after Fury backed out. He received a bit opportunity, got off the floor and won big.

Wilder won his title and wants a big fight vs Joshua who many call THE Heavyweight Champion. Why is he being bashed for it? Sure you can look down his record as well, but why are some of you fans playing promoter, giving them reason to not put on this necessary HW fight while they are both undefeated? Since when did some of you care and WANT a fight to be staved off for a couple of years so that it can be "the biggest fight possible"?

So you'd rather wait another year or so for the possibility of either Joshua or Wilder losing/looking poor in a performance or two as opposed to making it happen right now? Trilogies have been built on fights happening early rather than manufacturing a fight when both men are ready to retire.

I guess some of you really do like Bob's "let it marinate" strategy...

Take this bull **** to fight hype you’re making sense. Stop it... I’m playing Jesus Christ they should open a forum for guys to talk ratings, purse splits, hot dog sales and Spence’s *******. And let us morons talk about fights, blood and glory. I care about the guys in The trunks not the suits. Great post

[Randall Cunning]

Joshua plans to finish 2018 undisputed, but people pissed off hes doing it in the wrong order. Hilarious.

[Legendary Hater]

Who is “Bashing” Wilder for wanting to fight for all the belt? Talk is cheap, he took him 9 years to finally want to step up great!!! The irritating thing is people crying after a few days about “He don’t want it yall” “What are they scared of yall” “They are protecting him mayne”. We all want the fight, calm down, pipe down, negotiate the fight and let’s move on.

You've changed, Ray...something has triggered and compelled you to resort to their behavior...you're better than that.

Anyway....good post, Tyrant...somewhere along the line, "fans" started caring more about who made more money or who had more Instagram followers than who proved they were THE BEST.

Some say it started in the late '70s/early '80s with Ray Leonard...De La Hoya then hit the scene and became The Golden Loser, getting paid the most and losing big fight after big fight...then came Mayweather, who was all about money, but he never lost and actually PROVED he was the best...

And here we are now...people feel inadequate, insecure...so they have to try to have some sort of category that THEIR guy is "better" in...to make them feel better about themselves...it's a horrible, weak mindset, and it disgusts me...

I very rarely talk about the money or splits or things of that nature...but if they wanna go there, for this particular matchup, I will go there...I say Wilder should ask/settle for 33% of everything, go to England, and knock Joshua smooth out...

It would be enough pay to satisfy him, and pretty easy work to boot...

[Pechorin]

Being the "A" side, the purse split, the fight location only counts when it's a PBC fighter. Let any other fighter want to negotiate and do what's best for themselves and it's a duck.

[Ray*]

You've changed, Ray...something has triggered and compelled you to resort to their behavior...you're better than that.

Anyway....good post, Tyrant...somewhere along the line, "fans" started caring more about who made more money or who had more Instagram followers than who proved they were THE BEST.

Some say it started in the late '70s/early '80s with Ray Leonard...De La Hoya then hit the scene and became The Golden Loser, getting paid the most and losing big fight after big fight...then came Mayweather, who was all about money, but he never lost and actually PROVED he was the best...

And here we are now...people feel inadequate, insecure...so they have to try to have some sort of category that THEIR guy is "better" in...to make them feel better about themselves...it's a horrible, weak mindset, and it disgusts me...

I very rarely talk about the money or splits or things of that nature...but if they wanna go there, for this particular matchup, I will go there...I say Wilder should ask/settle for 33% of everything, go to England, and knock Joshua smooth out...

It would be enough pay to satisfy him, and pretty easy work to boot...

Am not here to please anyone, I hate nationalist posters. People who get on a bandwagon because of someone elses race, passport, fighting style etc I cannot stay some of those posters that i saw whining on here last week. So for me its about being me and cutting it down the middle.