Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Eats Me? Did You See How Easy I Put Down 255!

[j.razor]

I wonder how far Stiverne could have ran on Saturday.

Literally, if he put on a pair of trainers and hit the road. How long could have gone for? I don't think that lad had 5K in him.

Explains why he stood in front of Wilder behind his gloves stock still like an unhappy mushroom.

Cuz he thought he could get D.Wilder to gas out but D.Wilder went through his gloves....lol

[j.razor]

Except none of his KO’s have come against anything even approaching legit competition.

If you’re cool with him KO’ing cab drivers, then there is no argument.

AJ has fought his fair share of bums also & he only got 20 fights....lol

[j.razor]

Arreola and Stiverne aren't world class. One lost to a journeyman in two and the other has been beaten up by old men and light heavyweights before Wilder. Both are fat. They don't compare to Klitschko, and very likely don't even compare to Whyte or Takam. Wilders never been in a fight.imagine Stiverne was AJ's best opponent, you'd be screaming hype job.

AJ has fought plenty of bums too. klitsko was in an era where there were no top heavyweights left but who Lennox Lewis who retired after he opened up his brother. klitsko has been KO'd by bums too. klitsko good but not great, he always had trouble with fighters his size & Jennings beat him too....What we do know is that D.Wilder can drop you with ONE punch & AJ has to put in work to drop you. Its what makes the fight good. AJ has to box to beat D.Wilder while D.Wilder just needs one punch.

[j.razor]

You can't compare the Martin fight to this one though.

Joshua had no belt to Martins IBF belt and was fighting in the O2 arena. They needed his belt to boost Joshua's marketability.

Joshua has 2 belts to Wilder's 1 and can sell out stadiums against anyone it seems. Joshua now makes eight figures per fight while Wilder's highest payday is $1.5 million.

It's night and day in terms of revenue and earning potential. 80-20 is much more fair than a laughable 50-50 when you consider who is the driving force behind the revenue. No one in Joshua's position would be making concessions for a guy who has no where near the drawing power that he does.

According to you guys Canelo didn't have to make concessions for Golovkin but Joshua has to for Wilder?? just LOOOOL.

80-20? Man you cheap! How bout 65-35 at least?

[j.razor]

For all the talk coming from Wilder's camp, where is HIS offer to Joshua? Why does everyone assume the offer has to come FROM Joshua/Hearn TO Wilder? It's ridiculous and it exposes how poorly Wilder understands the BUSINESS of boxing. As far as potential money fights go, AJ vs Tyson Fury would be very hard to top - provided both enter the ring as undefeated fighters. Paulie Malignaggi said as much when he intimated Joshua wants Wilder but would like to tackle Fury first. Eddie Hearn, speaking to Kugan Cassius (IFL TV) in Monaco, last weekend, said that he has been in talks with Wilder's people (NOT Lou diBella) but they have not made ANY offer to AJ. Now, one would think, with all of the chasing and calling out coming from one direction (Wilder), that his people would, AT THE VERY LEAST, have made some sort of offer - but no...they all seem to think it is Eddie Hearn's responsibility. Ultimately, he WILL take charge (just as he will become a successful promoter in the US) but for now, he must wait for the WBA to decide the fate of AJ's mandatory bout (whether to force it, now that Ortiz is suspended, or to push it back, again.) In any case, the Wilder fight is one for an outdoor stadium, which means Summertime. And if that fight fails to get made in time, AJ vs Fury will prove to be just as big an attraction to fans of Joshua and of the gypsy king. Hearn has made one caveat to his desire to see AJ fight three times in 2018. That is, even IF the Wilder fight ends up being AJ's next bout, it still WON'T happen before next Summer. This is easy for UK fans to understand because the fight fills Wembley Stadium, which is in constant use for football between now and the end of May, being the temporary home for Tottenham Hotspur's domestic and European games, as well as the venue for cup semi-finals and finals and promotion play-off finals - all in addition to being the arena for the England teams home matches. Cold Winter weather removes the likelihood of staging a major boxing event on one of the few spare dates that Wembley has, before Summer - and holding the fight in America, where Deontay Wilder has such a limited profile, is looking less-likely, by the day - especially in light of ZERO offers having come from Camp Wilder. Eddie has said AJ will fight abroad, at least once in 2018 (if he has three fights) - but it's clear that his BIGGEST fight will be a Summer sell-out at Wembley Stadium. Thus, if Wilder is to be his biggest fight, that is when and where it is likely to happen. Ditto, if his main opponent happens to be Tyson Fury, instead of Wilder.

After that 1st sentence I stopped reading cuz it was B.S. Here enjoy the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3q1s2jM9KE

[Ake-Dawg]

You can't compare the Martin fight to this one though.

Joshua had no belt to Martins IBF belt and was fighting in the O2 arena. They needed his belt to boost Joshua's marketability.

Joshua has 2 belts to Wilder's 1 and can sell out stadiums against anyone it seems. Joshua now makes eight figures per fight while Wilder's highest payday is $1.5 million.

It's night and day in terms of revenue and earning potential. 80-20 is much more fair than a laughable 50-50 when you consider who is the driving force behind the revenue. No one in Joshua's position would be making concessions for a guy who has no where near the drawing power that he does.

According to you guys Canelo didn't have to make concessions for Golovkin but Joshua has to for Wilder?? just LOOOOL.

Financial stats for past fights aren't the only factors in negotiations. You have to consider the value that each fighter brings to the fight.

[NaijaD]

80-20? Man you cheap! How bout 65-35 at least?

I said 80-20 is much more realistic than 50-50.... I think 70-30 is the best Wilder can hope for.

[Ray*]

Well, if you are trying to be adult about things, why are you putting words in my mouth?

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I went by your running logic. You can’t add levels to it to suit your argument. By your logic Wilder is running from Whyte.

[bluepete]

AJ has fought plenty of bums too. klitsko was in an era where there were no top heavyweights left but who Lennox Lewis who retired after he opened up his brother. klitsko has been KO'd by bums too. klitsko good but not great, he always had trouble with fighters his size & Jennings beat him too....What we do know is that D.Wilder can drop you with ONE punch & AJ has to put in work to drop you. Its what makes the fight good. AJ has to box to beat D.Wilder while D.Wilder just needs one punch.

Wilder needs one punch against the level he's fought at. Joshua has fought a dangerous puncher and Wilder has not. When you watch Klitschko ice guys out you can't doubt he's power, and he landed on Joshua who got back up. Wilder has never been hit by anyone even remotely like these guys. See although Harold dropped Wilder and Molina wobbled him, few have even hit Wilder. There's nothing to suggest he can take AJs power. There's nothing to suggest he can ice a world class heavy. Maybe he can, but hes not fought one yet.

[Gillie]

If Wilder catches AJ clean he is getting put to sleep. There is no question about it, anyone who says otherwise is delusional. The one thing you cannot doubt in Wilder is his power. You literally cannot make an argument about against his power.

Sure but if AJ catches Wilder clean, he may break him in half. They both have power.