Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Eats Me? Did You See How Easy I Put Down 255!

[Ake-Dawg]

To be honest i wouldn't be surprise if Parker beat both Wilder and AJ, Wilder against stiverne in their first fight threw everything at him, when he knew he couldn't Ko him he got on his bike. I don't think he can KO Parker and i don't think he can outwork him neither. With AJ i just see Parker outhustling him to a UD.

Wilder broke his right hand early in that fight. Also, what has Parker shown that makes you feel he can't be outworked by Wilder. Parker has looked pedestrian in his last two fights.

[koolkc107]

Am not into friction, i deal with facts and reality, when someone comes to me to discuss boxing like an adult then i would do the same with them, give them the respect that they deserve.

When someone comes to me and say fighter X is running, then i would ask them what are the running from? Is there an offer that was presented for them to run from?

You know an offer like the one Whyte offered to Wilder. Now going by your logic "Wilder" is running from Whyte, why? because he has an offer made to him.

Now like i have said before this whole thing turned into another thing am NOT surprised that Wilder right hand KO all this guys that he fought, with that level of opponents am really NOT shocked.

Do i think Wilder stops Joshua? Absolutely....look up my pick history regarding that fight.

Well, if you are trying to be adult about things, why are you putting words in my mouth?

I said sometimes a contract can also mean a duck.

If you promote fighter A and B, and I am on the same level as fighter A and want to fight him yet you offer me fighter B, then that could be you protecting fighter A from me. You are delaying the fight I want hoping something will happen with me and fighter B (a lackluster showing or even a loss).

Is that ducking to you or not?
Because that is what has been going on.

You went 50/50 with Charles Martin but you are throwing out 80/20 for Wilder?

That sounds like making an offer you know will get turned down, so is that ducking to you or not?

There is more I could say, but I am going to wait til I hear news of the negotiations that supposedly took place yesterday...

[NaijaD]

Well, if you are trying to be adult about things, why are you putting words in my mouth?

I said sometimes a contract can also mean a duck.

If you promote fighter A and B, and I am on the same level as fighter A and want to fight him yet you offer me fighter B, then that could be you protecting fighter A from me. You are delaying the fight I want hoping something will happen with me and fighter B (a lackluster showing or even a loss).

Is that ducking to you or not?
Because that is what has been going on.

You went 50/50 with Charles Martin but you are throwing out 80/20 for Wilder?

That sounds like making an offer you know will get turned down, so is that ducking to you or not?

There is more I could say, but I am going to wait til I hear news of the negotiations that supposedly took place yesterday...

You can't compare the Martin fight to this one though.

Joshua had no belt to Martins IBF belt and was fighting in the O2 arena. They needed his belt to boost Joshua's marketability.

Joshua has 2 belts to Wilder's 1 and can sell out stadiums against anyone it seems. Joshua now makes eight figures per fight while Wilder's highest payday is $1.5 million.

It's night and day in terms of revenue and earning potential. 80-20 is much more fair than a laughable 50-50 when you consider who is the driving force behind the revenue. No one in Joshua's position would be making concessions for a guy who has no where near the drawing power that he does.

According to you guys Canelo didn't have to make concessions for Golovkin but Joshua has to for Wilder?? just LOOOOL.

[NaijaD]

Anyone who has ever been a Floyd fan and is calling for Joshua to make concessions for Wilder needs shooting!

Simple as that!!

[koolkc107]

You can't compare the Martin fight to this one though.

Joshua had no belt to Martins IBF belt and was fighting in the O2 arena. They needed his belt to boost Joshua's marketability.

Joshua has 2 belts to Wilder's 1 and can sell out stadiums against anyone it seems. Joshua now makes eight figures per fight while Wilder's highest payday is $1.5 million.

It's night and day in terms of revenue and earning potential. 80-20 is much more fair than a laughable 50-50 when you consider who is the driving force behind the revenue. No one in Joshua's position would be making concessions for a guy who has no where near the drawing power that he does.

According to you guys Canelo didn't have to make concessions for Golovkin but Joshua has to for Wilder?? just LOOOOL.

Joshua would definitely be the draw in Britain.

But, if he can go 50/50 to get one belt, he can certainly do the same against another, better, more marketable opponent.

But, comparing Joshua to Floyd or Canelo is kinda ******.

Those guys and Pac are draws ANYWHERE; Joshua can't draw flies outside of England.

So if I am am Wilder, I'll be damned if I let Hearn act like Joshua is some international star or that there is no leverage elsewhere.

Because there is.

The fight doesn't have to be in Britain to be sucessful.

[nacho daddy]

don't get too excited cause any one that is a threat to wilder haymon pays off VADA to have the guy come up dirty. then haymon will try to get paid for the non fight like he did with Povetkin. now Joshua is juiced and I say so is wilder

[SUBZER0ED]

I can't believe Wilder is actually acting like his KO of an uninspired, fat, shot, old, pathetic Stiverne is a major accomplishment. Joshua is not Stiverne. Keep deluding yourself, Deontay, you'll need all of the confidence you can get when you finally stand in front of Anthony Joshua.

[NaijaD]

Joshua would definitely be the draw in Britain.

But, if he can go 50/50 to get one belt, he can certainly do the same against another, better, more marketable opponent.

But, comparing Joshua to Floyd or Canelo is kinda ******.

Those guys and Pac are draws ANYWHERE; Joshua can't draw flies outside of England.

So if I am am Wilder, I'll be damned if I let Hearn act like Joshua is some international star or that there is no leverage elsewhere.

Because there is.

The fight doesn't have to be in Britain to be sucessful.

He has 2 of those belts now..... WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

The fight belongs in the UK, that is the only place the fight can make the kind of money that Joshua already earns. If the fight happens in the US then yes Wilder can ask for something much closer to 50-50 but that's fantasy. Wilder is not a PPV fighter in the US and is no where near that level of popularity, that's not a diss to him but boxing in america is not as marketable.

[352]

Where's the offer?

For all the talk coming from Wilder's camp, where is HIS offer to Joshua? Why does everyone assume the offer has to come FROM Joshua/Hearn TO Wilder? It's ridiculous and it exposes how poorly Wilder understands the BUSINESS of boxing. As far as potential money fights go, AJ vs Tyson Fury would be very hard to top - provided both enter the ring as undefeated fighters. Paulie Malignaggi said as much when he intimated Joshua wants Wilder but would like to tackle Fury first. Eddie Hearn, speaking to Kugan Cassius (IFL TV) in Monaco, last weekend, said that he has been in talks with Wilder's people (NOT Lou diBella) but they have not made ANY offer to AJ. Now, one would think, with all of the chasing and calling out coming from one direction (Wilder), that his people would, AT THE VERY LEAST, have made some sort of offer - but no...they all seem to think it is Eddie Hearn's responsibility. Ultimately, he WILL take charge (just as he will become a successful promoter in the US) but for now, he must wait for the WBA to decide the fate of AJ's mandatory bout (whether to force it, now that Ortiz is suspended, or to push it back, again.) In any case, the Wilder fight is one for an outdoor stadium, which means Summertime. And if that fight fails to get made in time, AJ vs Fury will prove to be just as big an attraction to fans of Joshua and of the gypsy king. Hearn has made one caveat to his desire to see AJ fight three times in 2018. That is, even IF the Wilder fight ends up being AJ's next bout, it still WON'T happen before next Summer. This is easy for UK fans to understand because the fight fills Wembley Stadium, which is in constant use for football between now and the end of May, being the temporary home for Tottenham Hotspur's domestic and European games, as well as the venue for cup semi-finals and finals and promotion play-off finals - all in addition to being the arena for the England teams home matches. Cold Winter weather removes the likelihood of staging a major boxing event on one of the few spare dates that Wembley has, before Summer - and holding the fight in America, where Deontay Wilder has such a limited profile, is looking less-likely, by the day - especially in light of ZERO offers having come from Camp Wilder. Eddie has said AJ will fight abroad, at least once in 2018 (if he has three fights) - but it's clear that his BIGGEST fight will be a Summer sell-out at Wembley Stadium. Thus, if Wilder is to be his biggest fight, that is when and where it is likely to happen. Ditto, if his main opponent happens to be Tyson Fury, instead of Wilder.

[koolkc107]

He has 2 of those belts now..... WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

The fight belongs in the UK, that is the only place the fight can make the kind of money that Joshua already earns. If the fight happens in the US then yes Wilder can ask for something much closer to 50-50 but that's fantasy. Wilder is not a PPV fighter in the US and is no where near that level of popularity, that's not a diss to him but boxing in america is not as marketable.

Wilder has been champion longer than AJ.

And it isn't Deontay's fault the WBA decided to gift the winner of Joshua/Klitschko a belt neither of them deserved to be fighting for.

And before you talk about how Britain is the only place for the fight, let's find out how much Vegas can ante up.

See, you don't need 1M US buys to match or exceed what Joshua makes from 25 dollar PPVs in Britain.

And you don't need to sell 90,000 seats in Vegas to generate an 8 million dollar gate.

These are very reachable numbers for two undefeated heavyweights who are both KO artists and good in front of a camera.

It will be the easiest promotion in recent history.

And it will sell...in the US.