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  • JK1700
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    #41
    Originally posted by Sp0rty Cr@ig
    Lol no one picked those fighters to beat Floyd except edgy NSB posters & fanboys. The odds proved this...

    Undefeated Cotto, prime Pac, prime Mosley would have had narrower odds that was my point. Dont care who ducked who
    I mean, people who really understand boxing would pick Floyd obviously but plenty of casuals thought those would be really tough fights and they were easy. He tried to fight all those guys earlier. Wasn’t there a poll of fans before May-Pac where like 70% of fans predicted Manny would win? I seem to remember about the Mosley being considered almost 50-50 too. My point is yeah Mosley was better in 2000 but so was Floyd. Likewise Cotto in 2007 and Manny in 2009. They declined for sure, but so did Floyd.

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      #42
      Originally posted by JK1700
      You say this but you just made a thread about Larry hating Manny because he made a thread asking if he beats Spence, Thurman etc. Of course people have critics it’s just funny how so many of you still can’t accept Mayweather’s greatness. Even after he dominated all of the top fighters across 19 years. Some of you are so extreme with it I get the impression you will never get over the fact that he schooled all your favourite fighters.
      Larry made a thread asking a question that anybody with common sense would know the answer to.

      I don't have a problem with Mayweather being great, and honestly i could care less who he schooled, but I am certainly not going to overexaggerate the significance of certain fights in accordance to when the fights took place, or just how prime a fighter was when Floyd faced him. All this stuff comes with the territory imo, and its nobody's fault but Floyd Mayweather's that unbiased ppl can point out the holes in his career. The problem lies when his fanboys want to place the blame on everybody except Floyd.(aka excuses). Anybody chopping up with me knows I don't entertain that crap.
      Last edited by djtmal; 11-09-2017, 11:22 AM.

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      • Code Red
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        #43
        Originally posted by Elroy The Great
        too true.

        these so called fight fans give more credit to fighters they will never see in action (or see very little of) than a guy who has visual proof to his greatness.

        wtmf
        talk about some dksab
        Agreed, for them Salvador Sanchez, Ike Ibeabucci, and fighters like Edwin Valero are the greatest fighters ever.. it's always what they "would of done" while they give no credit to the fighter that did do...

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        • djtmal
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          #44
          Originally posted by JK1700
          I mean, people who really understand boxing would pick Floyd obviously but plenty of casuals thought those would be really tough fights and they were easy. He tried to fight all those guys earlier. Wasn’t there a poll of fans before May-Pac where like 70% of fans predicted Manny would win? I seem to remember about the Mosley being considered almost 50-50 too. My point is yeah Mosley was better in 2000 but so was Floyd. Likewise Cotto in 2007 and Manny in 2009. They declined for sure, but so did Floyd.
          so, how much credit do you want to give floyd mayweather for all these senior's tour fights, where guys like manny, shane, and cotto are far more shopworn than he is...you ask floyd, he'll be the first one to tell you he waited out these guys so the fights would draw top dollar...

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          • JK1700
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            #45
            Originally posted by djtmal
            so, how much credit do you want to give floyd mayweather for all these senior's tour fights, where guys like manny, shane, and cotto are far more shopworn than he is...you ask floyd, he'll be the first one to tell you he waited out these guys so the fights would draw top dollar...
            If you really paid attention to boxing you’d know Floyd called out Mosley in 99 and 06 he didn’t want it. Cotto in 05 and 06 “wasn’t ready” in the words of his own trainer. Bob showed no interest in the fight until Manny got KO’d after which they had nothing to lose by putting him in there with Floyd. These are all documented facts I get that you don’t like Floyd and you’re a huge Pacquiao fan but there’s no need to be so ignorant. Yeah all these guys were older but stop trying to act like Floyd is some sort of robot who doesn’t age either. He slipped just as much if not more than those guys. 2015 Mayweather was nowhere near as good as 2009 Mayweather. Just like he was way better in 2000 than he was in 2010. Do your research and you’ll see it was these guys that ducked him, not the other way around.

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              #46
              You know the dude basically cleaned out boxing when the worst thing people can say is “well he beat all these guys but should’ve fought them earlier”. None of those guys wanted it earlier. And the best guy they can name who he didn’t fight (Bumgarito) got wrecked and lost every round to the guys he beat instead. Bottom line Mayweather was a once in a lifetime talent we probably won’t see anyone who’s even comparable for another 20-30 years. Love him or hate him it’s hard to think of anyone in history who was as smart and technically brilliant in the ring.

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              • Francis M.
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                #47
                Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                him being the favorite in every fight is a testament to his greatness.
                It also has a lot to do with the timing of the fights.
                PAC and Floyd would have been a 50/50 odds fight 5 years earlier. Floyd would have probably won.

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                  #48
                  I said Castillo would beat Floyd. He did. 49-1.

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                  • Motofan
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                    #49
                    As dumb as it sounds now I though Chico had a GREAT chance of walking through Floyd. I also thought Oscar based on his size had a good chance. Both seem funny now, but back then I thought they were plausible. I never really gave anyone else anything outside of a punchers chance against Floyd. Which is why Floyd has made me a good chunk of money at the casino over the years.

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                    • JK1700
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Francis M.
                      It also has a lot to do with the timing of the fights.
                      PAC and Floyd would have been a 50/50 odds fight 5 years earlier. Floyd would have probably won.
                      You really think so? Floyd was way better in 2009 than 2015 I think they declined pretty much just as much as each other. Manny couldn’t land against a 38 year old Mayweather who was given a much harder fight twice by Maidana because he was very unpredictable with his punches and angles. If they fought earlier Floyd would’ve been even harder to hit and Manny still would’ve been predictable. Which is why he never would’ve beaten Floyd. Just too predictable only 1 game plan. No plan b.

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