Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: If Vegas Wants Wilder-Joshua, It'll Be There

[petegrif]

We don't need to wrack our uninformed brains trying to figure out whether the UK or Vegas will offer more money.

We just wait.

The market will tell us soon enough.

[ShoulderRoll]

The Dallas Cowboys stadium can seat 100,000 but it still routinely loses out on big fights to Las Vegas.

So the title of this article is true. If the Vegas casinos want a fight they can usually bid more money than anyone else to get it.

[GhostofDempsey]

Wilder's last four fights:

Barclay's 11K in attendance (capacity 18K) = 7K empty seats

Birmingham Arena 12K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Birmingham Arena 11.9K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Barclay's 12K in attendance (capacity 18K) - 6K empty seats

Joshua's last four fights:

Principality Stadium 78K in attendance (capacity 74.5K) exceeded normal capacity and set an indoor record for attendance previously held by Ali in 1978.

Wembley Stadium 90K in attendance (capacity 90K) = 0 empty seats

Manchester Arena 21K in attendance (capacity 21K) = 0 empty seats

London 02 arena 20K in attendance (capacity 20K) = 0 empty seats

If I start comparing purses in the last four fights for each fighter, some feelings are going to get hurt.

[Madison Boxing]

not convinced a 90k stadium is the right site this is the way wilder will dodge out of the fight, by saying it has to happen in america.

[The Big Dunn]

Wilder's last four fights:

Barclay's 11K in attendance (capacity 18K) = 7K empty seats

Birmingham Arena 12K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Birmingham Arena 11.9K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Barclay's 12K in attendance (capacity 18K) - 6K empty seats

Joshua's last four fights:

Principality Stadium 78K in attendance (capacity 74.5K) exceeded normal capacity and set an indoor record for attendance previously held by Ali in 1978.

Wembley Stadium 90K in attendance (capacity 90K) = 0 empty seats

Manchester Arena 21K in attendance (capacity 21K) = 0 empty seats

London 02 arena 20K in attendance (capacity 20K) = 0 empty seats

If I start comparing purses in the last four fights for each fighter, some feelings are going to get hurt.

Compare the live gates. You expect more people to come if there are cheap seats available. In Vegas, there aren't $50 and $25 seats like there are in an outdoor stadium.

AJ is the draw without question. If he wants the crowd behind him, its Wembley. If he wants the dough, its Vegas.

[Flabble Scrote]

Vegas, they can build up a train over 6-12 months, people in USA are very gullible and will believe most things, but it's a good fight, casuals and media will just look at Joshua and both guys perfect KO records and see marvel characters, carefully promoted I believe despite their low profile it's ready to break through given a good hype train and some TV spots

I'd like to see in USA, it has the potential to be so much bigger than UK and grow the sport, sure we know what we will get in UK but this fight will be epic in USA and I think it would look better on Joshua's record should he win. If you want to make your name in USA, this is the fight, not some safe defence .

[The Big Dunn]

not convinced a 90k stadium is the right site this is the way wilder will dodge out of the fight, by saying it has to happen in america.

Check the live gate totals. If you can make $15 mil live gate in England but a $50 live gate in Vegas, where would you stage the fight?

[TheBigLug]

If Haye destroys Bellew next month then I swear skysport/Hearn would do that fight (Bigger payday) than a Wilder fight, I think Wilder is kind of stuck somewhere in the middle to be honest. He need to hope Fury doesn’t come back, and Haye to lose. That would only leave him as the biggest money fight available to Joshua.

I agree with that.

As it stands, Joshua has no reason not to fight Wilder if Fury and Haye out of the picture.

That said, Fury is a long way off that fight anyway but you can see Sky trying to force Joshua v Haye next year. That would be their absolute dream. Haye is pretty decent selling PPV fighter in his own right in the UK with the right opponent. Put him with Joshua and it's huge. Sky/Hearn will do everything they can do make it. Haye will want it too, i believe it's partly the reason he come back. He wants that payday badly, he has basically said it plenty of times.

For the sake of the heavyweight division in the short term, it would be good if Bellew beats Haye to leave no alternatives for a huge Joshua fight.

[TheBigLug]

Compare the live gates. You expect more people to come if there are cheap seats available. In Vegas, there aren't $50 and $25 seats like there are in an outdoor stadium.

AJ is the draw without question. If he wants the crowd behind him, its Wembley. If he wants the dough, its Vegas.

Good luck getting a $25 seat at a Joshua fight. A Canelo stadium fight yes, you can get them for $10 on the day because they don't sell out.

Joshua tickets sell out like 80,000 in a day and the very cheapest seats do come in at about $50 but you're talking right at the very back of an 80,000 stadium. Most of the tickets on sale are around the $120 mark, if you convert the currency. And obviously they go up from there.

[The Big Dunn]

Good luck getting a $25 seat at a Joshua fight. A Canelo stadium fight yes, you can get them for $10 on the day because they don't sell out.

Joshua tickets sell out like 80,000 in a day and the very cheapest seats do come in at about $50 but you're talking right at the very back of an 80,000 stadium. Most of the tickets on sale are around the $120 mark, if you convert the currency. And obviously they go up from there.

Ok, $50. My point is in Vegas the cheap seat for a Wilder/AJ undefeated unification might be $250-350.

AJ is going to prob get more if the fight here.