Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: If Vegas Wants Wilder-Joshua, It'll Be There

[greeneye99]

Facts

Wilder's last four fights:

Barclay's 11K in attendance (capacity 18K) = 7K empty seats

Birmingham Arena 12K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Birmingham Arena 11.9K in attendance (capacity 15K) = 3k empty seats in his home town

Barclay's 12K in attendance (capacity 18K) - 6K empty seats

Joshua's last four fights:

Principality Stadium 78K in attendance (capacity 74.5K) exceeded normal capacity and set an indoor record for attendance previously held by Ali in 1978.

Wembley Stadium 90K in attendance (capacity 90K) = 0 empty seats

Manchester Arena 21K in attendance (capacity 21K) = 0 empty seats

London 02 arena 20K in attendance (capacity 20K) = 0 empty seats

If I start comparing purses in the last four fights for each fighter, some feelings are going to get hurt.

Yea i luv it #Facts

[greeneye99]

wilder the A side and fights got to happen in america doe...

Wilder A side? Lol dude has no fan base or name outside of Alabama stop trolling

[greeneye99]

This fight belongs in the US like all major fights or major heavyweight fights. There is more money here and they seem to either want to price tneselves out because they are scared or want to stay in England to milk more money. Wilder brings a large tv audience every time and if AJ foyght in the US for one fight it would be a massive PPV.

Wilder brings a large TV audience never fought on PPV never sold out an Arena
it's UK all day

[greeneye99]

This fight makes way more money in America. Joshua putting 90k in the seats and getting only 10 mil gate.

In Vegas you get site fee, 20k will get a 10 mil gate. PPV in the U.S. and PPV in the UK. If the fight is in the UK it's not gonna be PPV here. Everybody knows Vegas fights make the most money.

AJ only getting 10 million a fight? he also gets ppv upsides bro
What does Wilder get 1 million and 11 thousand ppl in an 18 000 capacity arena bruh

[Madison Boxing]

Wilder A side? Lol dude has no fan base or name outside of Alabama stop trolling

aha i was being sarcastic mate.

[BlakBread904]

Well if that is the case it is just a matter of timing the fight properly for a pPV audience. IF the US PPV (it will be on PPV in the US) is not a focus and the numbers are not expected to be more than some icing on the cake then you don't time the fight to start at 5am GMT a a normal Vegas fight, they can easily start it much earlier and have it be on at a time that appeals to the largest audience.

They can be creative to make the most money, it really doesn't have to be a zero sum game between US and English fans.

6hr time difference means promoters WILL have to choose between the two markets as far as live PPV. Why travel to the US for this fight if you are not going to maximize PPV revenue here?

[The Gambler1981]

6hr time difference means promoters WILL have to choose between the two markets as far as live PPV. Why travel to the US for this fight if you are not going to maximize PPV revenue here?

Well because Joshua's goals with beating Wilder are associated with conquering America.

That is much easier to accomplish from Vegas and the build up here than if the fight is held in London.

They can have pretty much the best of all worlds if they are creative and plan properly.

Even at 5 or 6 EST that fight will likely be pulling a good amount of US buys, do you think this fight can't pull like 500k easy (at twice the price of UK ppv) at a good time? Probably like 350k at a rather odd time. That is like more than 20 million in extra revenue if the fight is in England and kind of out of the publics mind they will have a much harder time pulling numbers in the US while UK numbers will be pretty stable.


So I fail to see why they shouldn't think outside the box and try to make it all work for everyone. It is not normal or easy but they can try some things and a fight of the magnitude allows that because people will want to see who gets there head taken off.

[BlakBread904]

Well because Joshua's goals with beating Wilder are associated with conquering America.

That is much easier to accomplish from Vegas and the build up here than if the fight is held in London.

They can have pretty much the best of all worlds if they are creative and plan properly.

Even at 5 or 6 EST that fight will likely be pulling a good amount of US buys, do you think this fight can't pull like 500k easy (at twice the price of UK ppv) at a good time? Probably like 350k at a rather odd time. That is like more than 20 million in extra revenue if the fight is in England and kind of out of the publics mind they will have a much harder time pulling numbers in the US while UK numbers will be pretty stable.


So I fail to see why they shouldn't think outside the box and try to make it all work for everyone. It is not normal or easy but they can try some things and a fight of the magnitude allows that because people will want to see who gets there head taken off.

No, I don't think this can pull in 500k easy at 5pm-6pm EST. Neither guy is a draw in the US.

[hrt3333]

I agree as aesthetically for fights I don't get the appeal with Vegas. I know the money is there. But as an event it looks dull as fook.

Even that Mayweather/McGregor fight was really naff when it actually came down to the production considering the money on the line, even the lighting is shit - I wonder if there is a reason for that health and safety or whatnot. If you compare McGregor's UFC entrances to his Vegas one. He has green lights, the foggy dew plays, and then that Notorious track. It's cool. As a second generation Irish person I like it - it gets me going a bit.

The entrances to that Mayweather and Conor honestly felt like when you've stuck out a club to the bitter end and they actually turn the lights on as the last song is playing.

I never want to go and see a fight in Vegas personally.

Interesting points about the production I was just thinking a lot of passionate UK fans is a much better atmosphere than some gamblers in Vegas

[The Gambler1981]

No, I don't think this can pull in 500k easy at 5pm-6pm EST. Neither guy is a draw in the US.

A heavyweight fight of this magnitude is going to draw in the US with and American involved especially if it is held in the US.

The fight is greater than the sum of its parts, it is like the first Guardians of the Galaxy no one knew that **** either but people got excited about it (and it was awesome) now it is like it was always a big thing.