More impressive performance?: AJ-Takam or Wilder-Stiverne

[E10Rifle]

Takam lost both those fights so............

So...?

Are you one of these idiots that labels fighters ‘bums’ just because they lose competitive fights against elite boxers? What do you label fighters that lose uncompetitive fights against elite fighters? Quit wasting my time.

[BigZigga]

Not when Takam beat him, he was coming off his first win over Solis and was still a contender. Stiverne has only ever beaten that other fat slob Arreola

he was like 43...

[BigZigga]

So...?

Are you one of these idiots that labels fighters ‘bums’ just because they lose competitive fights against elite boxers? What do you label fighters that lose uncompetitive fights against elite fighters? Quit wasting my time.

didn't say that. He just hasn't beaten anyone of note

[Ray*]

Why would an early KO win not be more impressive?

[E10Rifle]

didn't say that. He just hasn't beaten anyone of note

Nope. And neither has Stiverne. But you must be an almighty dumbass to think that Takam wouldn’t have been a tougher test for Wilder tonight.

[fourtheboys96]

I think the Takam who lost to Joshua can KO Stiverne who just faced (and actually did not fight) Wilder.
Delusion level of Wilder fans is twice as much as Joshua's.

[BigZ44]

he was like 43...

And still at that point far better than anybody Stiverne ever beat. Stiverne is maybe the most overrated HW of the last 10 years

[daggum]

And still at that point far better than anybody Stiverne ever beat. Stiverne is maybe the most overrated HW of the last 10 years

course he was. he was unranked when he beat arreola who was ranked #9 and they moved him up to #3. obv that makes no sense.he stayed there till wilder wiped him out and never did another thing in boxing so it comes down to how good is arreola.....the answer??? not good. he has a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was losing to ray austin...

[Mr Objecitivity]

Are Carlos Takam and Bermane Stiverne seriously being compared to in terms of quality / level? That's like me knocking out a 10 year kid in 30 seconds and someone else taking 10 rounds to stop a fully grown adult in boxing bouts and then people arguing that my win over the 10 year old kid in 30 seconds is more impressive than the other individual who took 10 rounds to stop a fully grown adult.

Here are facts:

- Carlos Takam, prior to fighting Anthony Joshua was only ever stopped by Alexander Povetkin.
- Bermane Stiverne, prior to being stopped by Deontay Wilder, was only ever stopped by Demetrice King.


What is worse, getting stopped by Alexander Povetkin, who himself is an Olympic gold medalist, a former champion and has one of the best heavyweight records in the last 5 years, or getting stopped by Demetrice King, a guy who doesn't even have a wikipedia page and has lost more fights than he won?

Even if we go by victories, Carlos Takam has defeated Tony Thompson, Michael Grant and Franscois Botha, all combined are better than anybody that Bermane Stiverne has beaten combined.

[BoxingTech718]

Wilder tried to end Stivernes life.
I don’t even think Stiverne co TI he’s to fight after this last one.
He got murdered