After watching Lipinets I ask myself a question....

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  • g27region
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    After watching Lipinets I ask myself a question....

    Why Al Haymon couldn't sign better prospects from ex-Soviet bloc? Why amazing talents like Yeleussinov stays in amateurs because they can't get good offers from promoters and instead of seeing them in pros, we're forced to watch guys who's supposed to be "the real deal" like Lipinets but struggling with B class fighters?
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    It's boxing, fighters are just overrated and hyped by definition

    Your answer is that they prob wouldn't sign with Haymon

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      #3
      Originally posted by g27region
      Why Al Haymon couldn't sign better prospects from ex-Soviet bloc? Why amazing talents like Yeleussinov stays in amateurs because they can't get good offers from promoters and instead of seeing them in pros, we're forced to watch guys who's supposed to be "the real deal" like Lipinets but struggling with B class fighters?
      Because he was brought in to enhance his other talents rather than really be a product on his own.

      In essence he was the guy brought into be the Brooklyn Brawler, although that is a harsh wrestling example because I think they would want Lipinets to have some success before they feed them to guys that actually matter for them.

      Not like most Americans could pick Eastern European fighters out of a line-up so one with a relatively flashy record will serve just as well as a better one since he was never meant to be focused on anyway.

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        #4
        Originally posted by jmrf4435
        It's boxing, fighters are just overrated and hyped by definition

        Your answer is that they prob wouldn't sign with Haymon
        Why would they turned it down if they don't have any other offers on the table?

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          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          Because he was brought in to enhance his other talents rather than really be a product on his own.

          In essence he was the guy brought into be the Brooklyn Brawler, although that is a harsh wrestling example because I think they would want Lipinets to have some success before they feed them to guys that actually matter for them.

          Not like most Americans could pick Eastern European fighters out of a line-up so one with a relatively flashy record will serve just as well as a better one since he was never meant to be focused on anyway.
          Green K for that.

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            #6
            Originally posted by g27region
            Why would they turned it down if they don't have any other offers on the table?
            I think some of those fighters have trust issues and want to stay close to home.

            Look at how the kovalev-jackson relationship turned out. I mean that's a trainer yes, but the same comfort level can be applied.

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              Egis Klimas got teh entire eastern block on LOCK!

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                #8
                Originally posted by jmrf4435
                I think some of those fighters have trust issues and want to stay close to home.

                Look at how the kovalev-jackson relationship turned out. I mean that's a trainer yes, but the same comfort level can be applied.
                I'd say fighters from ex-Soviet bloc are more used to fighting overseas and dealing with foreign trainers and promoters than boxers from States, so it shouldn't be a problem. I've heard Beterbiev's team wanted to sign with Haymon even before they got that offer.

                Kovalev/Jackson is just one example and I guess it doesn't have nothing to do with their nationalities, they just couldn't get along

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by g27region
                  I'd say fighters from ex-Soviet bloc are more used to fighting overseas and dealing with foreign trainers and promoters than boxers from States, so it shouldn't be a problem. I've heard Beterbiev's team wanted to sign with Haymon even before they got that offer.

                  Kovalev/Jackson is just one example and I guess it doesn't have nothing to do with their nationalities, they just couldn't get along
                  why hasn't anyone major signed Egidijus Kavaliauskas?

                  He's a freakin beast

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jmrf4435
                    why hasn't anyone major signed Egidijus Kavaliauskas?

                    He's a freakin beast
                    They have? he just fought on the Top Rank card?

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