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  • #91
    Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
    It's all genetics, he's been as heavy as 229 against Duhapaus, Molina and Szpilka. He was barely 200lbs when he made his debut as well so he's put on a good amount of weight.


    If anything the added weight makes him slower on his feet, takes away from his conditioning too.

    Wilder has severely underrated stamina and reflexes which is what Joshua lacks due to his size.

    Against Stiverne Wilder threw 621 punches and had plenty of gas left in the tank. He started off the 1st 5 rounds throwing 56, 60, 59, 44, and peaking in round 5 with 70.
    Keep in mind this was WITH a broken hand.

    Against Wlad Joshua threw 355 punches total, Klitschko just 256. AJ gasses when he's about 5 rounds in, after that his punches start losing steam and gets tagged more.

    AJ threw 40, 42, 38, 31, 53, after that he was laboring around the ring. Compare that to Wilder's 56, 60, 59, 44, 70.
    Just ****in lmao at this post. You can't compare fighting a walking punching bag in stiverne to fighting an ATG like Wladimir Klitschko. When two defensively sound fighters fight each other, punches thrown are always in the low range, just look at Fury vs Wlad for instance. Fury usually throws a ton of punches against lesser opponents, and was known for his great stamina.

    Also what does having a broken hand have to do with anything? If anything he would have have thrown the broken hand with less power, thus exerting less energy.
    Last edited by Danebrogen; 11-04-2017, 11:27 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Danebrogen View Post
      Just ****in lmao at this post. You can't compare fighting a walking punching bag in stiverne to fighting an ATG like Wladimir Klitschko. When two defensively sound fighters fight each other, punches thrown are always in the low range, just look at Fury vs Wlad for instance. Fury usually throws a ton of punches against lesser opponents, and was known for his great stamina.

      Also what does having a broken hand have to do with anything? If anything he would have have thrown the broken hand with less power, thus exerting less energy.
      It's well known by practically anybody that watched the fight AJ punched himself out early. Wlad was his punching bag the first few rounds lmao.

      http://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-j...-stats--116148

      Look at the compubox.

      Power punches thrown by both fighters

      Joshua-22, 11, 18, 14, 42, after that 7, 4, 8, 11, 10, 39

      Wlad-3, 3, 4, 11, 45, 22, 10, 14, 9, 4



      Wlad was a walking punching bag the first few rounds getting shut out, it took AJ punching himself out in round 5 for Wlad to start throwing.

      Btw, a guy like Wlad isn't half as durable as Stiverne, this is a guy stopped by Brewster, Purrity, Sanders, dropped 3x by Peter, rocked by Wach, Fury, Joshua, he isn't the unbeatable beast you make him out to be.

      If Wilder had losses to all these men he'd be considered a fcking joke, but because Wlad racked up 50+ wins over B-C level fighters "all time great"

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Banderivets View Post
        Powerful legs are important. AJs legs is what saved him against Wlad. When you have strong legs its much easier to stay up when hurt and get off the floor.

        Wlad always had twigs for legs too, and when hurt his legs just collapsed under him where AJ had a solid foundation when buzzed and stayed up.

        By no means legs equals chin, but I thimk that when you have a weak chin to begin with having a solid foundation downstairs will helo you get up and stay up.
        bull****......the look of a persons legs don't necessarily make them weaker. thin legs or big ones. big legs can be weaker then thin ones. it's all about how you train. vitali had some of the most thinest legs around but they were sturdy and strong. the look of a leg really has little baring on how strong and physically fit they are in combat sports. in that case body builders would come in a rule combat sports. but what is a proven fact. muscle mass such as aj's mixed with chub will use more oxygen and tire u out way quicker. and what is aj's answer to that? he wants to get bigger eat more have worse stamina. his recent comment is "i will beat wilder because he weighs 220" he take everything as size size size. in realty aj may weigh a lot more then wilder but he isn't the overall bigger man. wilder is a lean big tall power fighter. while aj is a bulked up slightly shorter fighter.
        Last edited by Godsfly; 11-04-2017, 08:50 PM.

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        • #94
          what will bummanes excuse be for this travesty ?!?!?!?!

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          • #95
            all joshua know is eat eat eat weight lifting and then eat again........eat eat eat.


            boxing has NEVER worked that way.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
              all joshua know is eat eat eat weight lifting and then eat again........eat eat eat.


              boxing has NEVER worked that way.
              jimmy thunder would agree with you.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Andrij View Post
                Thats why Team Wilder jumped away from dangerous Ortiz to make the save Stiverne fight.
                wilder was unable to fight a banned guy.

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                • #98


                  so much happens after photo shoots !!!!!!

                  edit....what year was this pic taken ?!?!?!?!?
                  Last edited by Elroy The Great; 11-05-2017, 01:12 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                    Stiverne looks like he was training for a pie-eating contest.
                    theres a pic of him flexing and he looks to be in good shape.

                    it was only 15 extra lbs (250 fight night) and for hw's thats nothing. he didnt gas, thats for sure.

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