Comments Thread For: Stiverne Weighs 254 Pounds, 15 More Than 1st Fight With Wilder

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  • mlac
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    #51
    Originally posted by RussTBE
    No hes just hydrated now, he was drained last time. Not this time. Wilder getting slept.

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    • N!Ck F.
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      #52
      Originally posted by anonymous2.0
      Stiverne being smart; he clearly guzzled 15 pounds of water to make sure he was hydrated
      Naw. He’s gonna say if he loses “I was OVERhydrated”

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        #53
        Originally posted by Godsfly
        i like wilder because he's a in shape all year round kinda fighter. 3 years ago he was at 219. 220 today showing that he takes his training very very seriously. joshua was 10 pounds heavier then when he fought wlad. stiverne 15 pounds bigger then when he 1st fought wilder. heavyweights like joshua stiverne don't understand how being 220 235 is a benefit. all they see is food food food. weight lifting. getting big. I am bigger. heavyweight boxing has never worked that way. u are at a serious stamina disadvantage when u add on so much bulk & weight. someone like joshua should really be 235 to 240 max.
        Wilder isn’t always in top condition. This is the lightest he’s been since the first Stiverne fight. And he was around 230 for the three fights after Stiverne. I’m from Nashville. So I’ve been attending his fights and following him for awhile. And since he filled out. I’ve noticed he’s been at his best when he’s in the low 220s. And anything north of 225 is too heavy for him. Of course, he weighed in in the low 220s for the Washington fight and didn’t look all that great. So who knows. Him being this low for Stiverne shows me he took this fight seriously. Or maybe it’s just a case where he came into camp in decent shape because he thought he was fighting Ortiz. But who knows. I’d like to see a good performance outta him. It’s been awhile.

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          #54

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          • LetOutTheCage
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            #55
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            ... expected some barn burner?



            ... how did you realize?...
            Nope but some Wilder fanboys were claiming Stiverne has a good chance of winning, despite being fat and out of shape

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              #56
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
              Nope but some Wilder fanboys were claiming Stiverne has a good chance of winning, despite being fat and out of shape
              ... they're more "American fanboys" rather than Wilder's fanboys... (How can someone be Wilder's fanboy?)

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                #57
                Originally posted by N!Ck F.
                Just said same thing, 6’7 and 220 is a weak frame. Dude has a huge upper body, but NO legs. Not sure why he wouldn’t hire a strength and conditioning coach that would turn them into tree trunks and probably take him from 220 to like 230. Imagine he had Joshua’s legs?? Dude would be terrifying.
                It's all genetics, he's been as heavy as 229 against Duhapaus, Molina and Szpilka. He was barely 200lbs when he made his debut as well so he's put on a good amount of weight.


                If anything the added weight makes him slower on his feet, takes away from his conditioning too.

                Wilder has severely underrated stamina and reflexes which is what Joshua lacks due to his size.

                Against Stiverne Wilder threw 621 punches and had plenty of gas left in the tank. He started off the 1st 5 rounds throwing 56, 60, 59, 44, and peaking in round 5 with 70.
                Keep in mind this was WITH a broken hand.

                Against Wlad Joshua threw 355 punches total, Klitschko just 256. AJ gasses when he's about 5 rounds in, after that his punches start losing steam and gets tagged more.

                AJ threw 40, 42, 38, 31, 53, after that he was laboring around the ring. Compare that to Wilder's 56, 60, 59, 44, 70.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Andrij
                  Thats why Team Wilder jumped away from dangerous Ortiz to make the save Stiverne fight.
                  ???? Ortiz failed hi drug test and got suspended..Stiverne is his mandatory..**** are you talking about?

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                  • BodiesInFlight
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by larryxxx.
                    ???? Ortiz failed hi drug test and got suspended..Stiverne is his mandatory..**** are you talking about?
                    I'm glad Ortiz got suspended. This is the much better fight.
                    Wilder has finally arrived!

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                    • Mushroom
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                      #60
                      I still don’t know how any human being could go through a gruelling training camp and come out looking like this

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