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  • #71
    Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
    i like wilder because he's a in shape all year round kinda fighter. 3 years ago he was at 219. 220 today showing that he takes his training very very seriously. joshua was 10 pounds heavier then when he fought wlad. stiverne 15 pounds bigger then when he 1st fought wilder. heavyweights like joshua stiverne don't understand how being 220 235 is a benefit. all they see is food food food. weight lifting. getting big. I am bigger. heavyweight boxing has never worked that way. u are at a serious stamina disadvantage when u add on so much bulk & weight. someone like joshua should really be 235 to 240 max.
    Very well said...

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    • #72
      Hi Bermane!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
        joshua should be 240......he is bigger framed then wilder but not by 254. if u love him at 254 and above (slow) that is your problem. and as far as legs. i could care less about. what does wilders legs have to do with joshua being 240 being faster improving his stamina being lighter on his feet as oppose to eating and weight lifting to 254?


        legs?
        What a defensive post.

        I was clearly stating Joshua is just point blank a bigger human being. Not saying he is a superior heavyweight off the back of that. But at 6'6 with his build. 254 or whatever it was is not outrageous.

        I mentioned Wilder's legs because they're thin and I doubt it is because he skips leg day. I didn't call him bird legs or anything disrespectful and I mentioned his build. Wilder is what my Grandad would call the greyhound breed. Build for speed. I bet that guy could eat all around him and not put on stacks of weights.

        AJ will be absolutely enormous when he retires.

        At 220 I actually think Wilder is bulked up.

        More credit for Wilder if he sparked AJ out from me. He is a smaller man.

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        • #74
          thats 15 more pounds of muscle

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
            It's all genetics, he's been as heavy as 229 against Duhapaus, Molina and Szpilka. He was barely 200lbs when he made his debut as well so he's put on a good amount of weight.


            If anything the added weight makes him slower on his feet, takes away from his conditioning too.

            Wilder has severely underrated stamina and reflexes which is what Joshua lacks due to his size.

            Against Stiverne Wilder threw 621 punches and had plenty of gas left in the tank. He started off the 1st 5 rounds throwing 56, 60, 59, 44, and peaking in round 5 with 70.
            Keep in mind this was WITH a broken hand.

            Against Wlad Joshua threw 355 punches total, Klitschko just 256. AJ gasses when he's about 5 rounds in, after that his punches start losing steam and gets tagged more.

            AJ threw 40, 42, 38, 31, 53, after that he was laboring around the ring. Compare that to Wilder's 56, 60, 59, 44, 70.
            His tiny waiste down. Small glutes, quads, hamstrings, calves.... if he worked specifically on those he’d put on another 10 pounds of solid muscle, have better physical endurance, and an overall sturdier platform for landing and receiving punches.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by JRB123 View Post
              Word...Most heavyweights have bigger legs than that.

              I have bigger legs than that and I'm 6-3.
              I would guarantee he hardly works them out. If he did he’d look like Joshua.

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              • #77
                people think wilder works out his legs....he doesnt even work on his boxing and hes a pro boxer! thats why he falls over everytime he throws punches. hes lazy lazy lazy.

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                • #78
                  Wilder has 0% body fat. Iys weird ive seen so many videos of him squatting and stuff.

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                  • #79
                    the wbc championship has it a new low...

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                    • #80
                      15lbs of hydration..

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