Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: As Soon as Joshua Accepts The Fight, I'll Be There!

[stellen]

You have no name on your resume after 40 fecking fights yet you seriously think you can talk your way into the top divisions money fight? You are even too scared to fight whyte SMH. Earn your shot you bum.

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You have no name on your resume after 40 fecking fights yet you seriously think you can talk your way into the top divisions money fight? You are even too scared to fight whyte SMH. Earn your shot you bum.

Wilder has beaten a top 3 heavyweight, something AJ has never done.

Wilder doesn't have to talk himself into anything. Everybody already knows AJ vs Wilder is the big fight to make and the fight will be made as long as both keep winning.

Wilder has been champion longer than AJ and Wilder has the most valuable belt (which Hearn has admitted publicly many times).

Whyte is just a distraction because Hearn doesn't want to do the Wilder fight next (nor should he want to). AJ vs Wilder makes the most sense as AJ's last fight of 2018.

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Wilder has beaten a top 3 heavyweight, something AJ has never done.

Wilder doesn't have to talk himself into anything. Everybody already knows AJ vs Wilder is the big fight to make and the fight will be made as long as both keep winning.

Wilder has been champion longer than AJ and Wilder has the most valuable belt (which Hearn has admitted publicly many times).

Whyte is just a distraction because Hearn doesn't want to do the Wilder fight next (nor should he want to). AJ vs Wilder makes the most sense as AJ's last fight of 2018.

stirverne is a bum deal with it. his claim to fame is beating arreola who never beat a top 10 figher himself. stirverne was unranked until he beat arreola who was ranked #9. after beating the #9 figher he jumped to #3. not sure how that works...then he beat arreola again ad moved up to #2! makign progress! if he had beat arreola a couple more times maybe he gets to #1!

[Kiowhatta]

For Wilder to gain credibility, and stop talking trash is to take on Jarrel Miller or Dillan Whyte after the expected snoozefest II with Stiverne. And not in 6 months time - ASAP.
One of these guys need to travel, and as it stands the numbers are in GB. Wilder would be best suited to signing to fight Whyte, Hughie Fury, ( at a far stretch Tyson Fury would be ideal but unlikely ).
If Wilder produces good numbers over there, then I say he should show some testicular fortitude and fight AJ at Wembley in front of 90,000.
If not, then maybe the reverse can happen - riskier as U.S audiences are not so sure about Joshua, he could fight a voluntary - say Andy Ruiz Jr, or a former Wilder victim, then set up to fight Wilder by mid next year.
2018 is the time to make this fight. No BS about 'marination' or other stalling tactics - Wilder is good for another 4-5 years, you'd think the chances of him taking one exciting challenge before the physical decline.

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stirverne is a bum deal with it. his claim to fame is beating arreola who never beat a top 10 figher himself. stirverne was unranked until he beat arreola who was ranked #9. after beating the #9 figher he jumped to #3. not sure how that works...then he beat arreola again ad moved up to #2! makign progress! if he had beat arreola a couple more times maybe he gets to #1!

And Joshua beat a 40 year old former champion who had not fought in 18 months since losing to - ugh- Tyson Fury for his best win.

Neither of these guys are going to usher in a great HW revival. Neither has a resume that screams anything other than "eh". But they need to fight, because Wilder is legit and Joshua is currently the best and none of the other HWs are even close. Parker is a limited snoozer, Miller is not ready, other top HW are dopers, and what is left is hard working HW warriors but not even B+ talent.

This stuff about Wilder "needing" Whyte is garbage and coming from over the pond to give Joshua more time to get cash in easier fights and also from Wilder-haters. Wilder will walk through Whyte who is one of those limited B+ dudes. I think Joshua makes Wilder look bad and beats him fairly easy, but it is the only HW fight either of them actually "needs".

[1hourRun]

stirverne is a bum deal with it. his claim to fame is beating arreola who never beat a top 10 figher himself. stirverne was unranked until he beat arreola who was ranked #9. after beating the #9 figher he jumped to #3. not sure how that works...then he beat arreola again ad moved up to #2! makign progress! if he had beat arreola a couple more times maybe he gets to #1!

Let me help you understand the ratings: I highlighted what you should of been paying attention too, as you can see Bermane was rated #2. in December 2014, a month later in January 2015 he was dominated by Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder ; in other words he was going in as the #2. HW in the world. The rankings you presented was updated after Stiverne took his L.

[Butch.McRae]

One problem with your scenario.

US PPV.

AJ can come to the US and still do gangbusters on UK PPV.

But if Wilder comes to the UK, the fight can't be a PPV in the US.


All involved know to maximize revenue it needs to be built into a US PPV attraction and therefore, the fight must take place in the US.


Which is why Hearn doesn't want to rush into the fight, nor should he. AJ is a cash cow. Makes all the business sense in the world to get in a couple more fights before Wilder.

That US argument lost all credibility when the Ortiz fight fell through. There's no path to making Wilder's name get traction here until after (and if) he beats Joshua. He's going to have to go to the UK, and I get the impression he understands that.

If they fought here, unless the fight is in NYC, I'm almost certain it wouldn't even sell out the live gate (not even at MGM T-Mobile).

Ward/Kovakev (both fights didn't clear 180k in PPV sales or sell out) shouldve taught people a lesson. There's going to be vitually no demand for that fight in the US. This "marinate it" argument is just silly and being used to duck. Even if Wilder beat Parker the US writers and media isn't going to provide enough buzz to build his name significantly. It won t happen unless he goes and conquers AJ in the UK. I think he can (empahsis on can) pull it off.

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That US argument lost all credibility when the Ortiz fight fell through. There's no path to making Wilder's name get traction here until after (and if) he beats Joshua. He's going to have to go to the UK, and I get the impression he understands that.

The public doesn't know who Ortiz is and they don't care. The public knows two heavyweights (if any at all). AJ & Wilder. Period. If AJ & Wilder get 2-3 more wins each on Showtime, that fight can do 300-500k buys on US PPV.

You're under estimating the attention the mainstream media would give this fight. Undefeated vs undefeated. To unify the WBC, WBA and IBF world heavyweight championship for the first time since 1999.

It is undoubtedly a PPV fight if it takes place. Even at 300k buys, it's too much extra revenue to pass up. The Ward-Kovalev comparison is ludicrous. Nobody wanted that fight. HBO tried to force that fight on the public because they let Stevenson slip through their fingers. AJ vs Wilder is the fight the public actually wants, not a poor substitute.

The biggest problem here is that HBO is going to make Hearn a massive offer to try to prevent that fight from happening. Which is another reason Hearn needs to delay the fight. He can maximize the leverage he has with AJ once Showtime's matching rights expire. The last thing HBO wants is for Showtime to be able to crown an undefeated (essentially) undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. They will do everything possible to try to sign AJ so this fight can never happen.

[Sickmerch1990]

dillian whyte is the chris eubank jr of the hw division....a guy with a resume full of domestic wins and euro trash......

wilder doesnt need to fight him to prove anything...thats why he said it would take 7 mil....7 mil to come across the pond and fight a nondescript challenger on his home turf....whyte aint that big of an attraction and wilder knows its fishy....wilder can make half that money staying at home....so 7 mil is the only way he'd travel to face a non champ whos name isnt big in boxing...its simple logic really....but you fools will call it "duck" because it suites your wack agenda.......you EE superfan/anti american/anti black guys are all the same...same old tired routine

what you mean wilder dosent after fight him hes begging for the aj fight hearn has told him you need to fight a live fighter known to the uk to make the fight a big draw aj v whyte would sell more hear than aj v wilder he needs to step up if he wants the big payday wilder acts like hes bringing all the money and belts to the table

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what you mean wilder dosent after fight him hes begging for the aj fight hearn has told him you need to fight a live fighter known to the uk to make the fight a big draw

Stop kidding yourself. AJ vs a can of soup would sell 75,000 tickets.

Wilder is the undefeated WBC heavyweight champion of the world. The #1 belt in all of boxing and the belt Lennox Lewis held 3 times (only man in history).

The idea that Wilder isn't a big enough name to fight AJ when AJ has been fighting Molina, Martin, Takam etc is absolutely ridiculous. Hearn knows AJ vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.

But AJ vs Fury is almost as big and a much easier fight to win. So Hearn would be CRAZY to not try to make the Fury fight first. Wilder will have to wait his turn. Whyte has nothing to do with it. That's a red herring.