how come they're having such a hard time building new stars since pac and floyd left?

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  • djtmal
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    #41
    Originally posted by Rampad
    Floyd doesnt have charisma. Hes just talked nonsense and annoyed people. Huge difference.
    The Pretty Boy Floyd years Floyd was more like a Oscar and Sugar Ray type dude, he wasn't as charasmatic as those dudes, but it helped him get established as a ppv attraction, but the Money May character he mixed in more of the bad boy image that people love to hate, with the big baller swag. That plus winning the fights put him over the top.

    To his credit, Floyd probably helped sell a great deal of the Oscar fight by use of that 24/7 vehicle, where he began to cultivate the Money Mayweather image. Did he oversell it yeah sometimes but Floyd was willing to sell his soul like that. I don't think most of these guys today are willing to do that.

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      #42
      Originally posted by djtmal
      The Pretty Boy Floyd years Floyd was more like a Oscar and Sugar Ray type dude, he wasn't as charasmatic as those dudes, but it helped him get established as a ppv attraction, but the Money May character he mixed in more of the bad boy image that people love to hate, with the big baller swag. That plus winning the fights put him over the top.

      To his credit, Floyd probably helped sell a great deal of the Oscar fight by use of that 24/7 vehicle, where he began to cultivate the Money Mayweather image. Did he oversell it yeah sometimes but Floyd was willing to sell his soul like that. I don't think most of these guys today are willing to do that.
      Thats not charisma though. Charisma is natural. Floyd, as you mentioned, had to transform into a character. Good on him, it worked!

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      • Sheldon312
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        #43
        It's because none of them really have Charisma. Wilder, Thurman, and Broner have the best chances out of everybody in America imo.

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          #44
          Originally posted by RichardPerez
          I also want to ad, PBC is a great thing where all boxers are under 1 banner and its continous for the fans, UFC like model. BUT they are doing something wrong. they started off good with marketing and fell off I feel.
          they ran out of money and overextended themselves. paying people like lara 1 million a fight and it was over quickly. haymon has a lot of pride so hes not letting it die and hes goign to drag it out to a slow death and stall these guys' careers since there arent enough shows to get them fights often. only when showtime wants to pay for them. it was ran the exact opposite of ufc. ufc started slow and built up. pbc started huge and winded down.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Lou Cipher
            You speak only when Lou Cipher gives you permission to speak. Prune Balls. Or I will kick your ass.
            A schoolgirl like you couldn't kick anyone's ass youre nothing but a wanker.

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            • daggum
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              #46
              they spent a lot of time and money trying to manufacture guys like broner and ward into stars but broner kept losing and ward was so boring and couldnt win a fight non-controversially and retired. next guy they will try to manufacture is named eric crumble. hes a scrappy fighter.

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                #47
                Wilder vs. Joshua can break records if it's promoted right.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
                  Wilder vs. Joshua can break records if it's promoted right.
                  you mean like if wilder fought on the joshua undercard and scored a spectacular ko while making 4 million dollars?
                  Last edited by daggum; 11-01-2017, 02:55 AM.

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                  • PensionKiller
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                    #49
                    Because a star isn't made unless they have a Gold Olympic medal and a huge promoter, or they face and beat a PPV star.

                    Floyd and Pac starting being household name stars after Dela Hoya.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Retarded
                      A schoolgirl like you couldn't kick anyone's ass youre nothing but a wanker.
                      All I have to do to you is kick your walker out then try to stop your wife from sucking the pants off me.

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