how come they're having such a hard time building new stars since pac and floyd left?

[The Gambler1981]

It generally takes time for new superstars to really replace the old, Larry Holmes was a star but it was not until Tyson that people really got hot about heavyweight fighting post Ali. That is like 4 or 5 years more if you don't want to count the last few Ali fights as him being around.


Also a lot of dudes really aren't going for that brass ring, normally when the tops dudes are on the way out a bunch of cats are trying to angle for that spot by making things happen. Not a lot of dudes trying to do big things, and that list gets shorter when you add in factors that allows guys to rally reach star status.

Take Lomachenko one guy who is trying to make things happen, but can he really be a huge star in the US time will tell and dude has the good but a lot of factors work against him really breaking through to the super top end of boxing.

There are fights that can make stars Joshua-Wilder Joshua is already a big star but he can expand a lot with the proper fuel and a guy like Wilder can be that and Wilder he needs a signature win to really raise his stakes. Thurman-Spence is another one both those guys have been heavily featured on TV in a lot of PBC's biggest fights whoever wins that fight is really on the verge of breaking through.

[donjigga11]

It generally takes time for new superstars to really replace the old, Larry Holmes was a star but it was not until Tyson that people really got hot about heavyweight fighting post Ali. That is like 4 or 5 years more if you don't want to count the last few Ali fights as him being around.


Also a lot of dudes really aren't going for that brass ring, normally when the tops dudes are on the way out a bunch of cats are trying to angle for that spot by making things happen. Not a lot of dudes trying to do big things, and that list gets shorter when you add in factors that allows guys to rally reach star status.

Take Lomachenko one guy who is trying to make things happen, but can he really be a huge star in the US time will tell and dude has the good but a lot of factors work against him really breaking through to the super top end of boxing.

There are fights that can make stars Joshua-Wilder Joshua is already a big star but he can expand a lot with the proper fuel and a guy like Wilder can be that and Wilder he needs a signature win to really raise his stakes. Thurman-Spence is another one both those guys have been heavily featured on TV in a lot of PBC's biggest fights whoever wins that fight is really on the verge of breaking through.

Even Floyd wasn't really a superstar until he beat Oscar.

I think every fighter needs that 1 fight to get them to that next level.

[JK1700]

There are stars just not “superstars”. It’s going to take some time and big wins for these guys to grow into that. But boxing is still very interesting it’s just there’s no clear #1 guy who’s really driving the sport right now but that doesn’t mean the sport is in bad shape. With every fight guys are becoming more popular.

[RichardP]

Boxing has tons of stars. CROSS OVER STAR is different, we only have Canelo right now.

golovkin, crawford, Garcia, broner, AJ, wilder, porter, santa cruz all have a big fan base each and list goes on and on. this is just from an american point of view.

thread starter must not be a true fan of boxing.

[RichardP]

I also want to ad, PBC is a great thing where all boxers are under 1 banner and its continous for the fans, UFC like model. BUT they are doing something wrong. they started off good with marketing and fell off I feel.

[Vasyl’s dad]

all of you dudes miss the bigger point everytime...

guys like ali, both sugar rays, oscar, even floyd, had charisma....and thats a thing whereas, either you have it, or you don't....go back to some of oscar's fights and peep out how the stadium was filled with bad azz women...

a lot of these guys right now are good boxers, a lot of 'em will do well, but every so often do you get that rare fighter who has that "it" factor...

most of these guys just don't have it, but they will do well in boxing, they will live better than the average joe if they manage themselves properly...

Floyd doesnt have charisma. Hes just talked nonsense and annoyed people. Huge difference.

[Kigali]

Floyd doesnt have charisma. Hes just talked nonsense and annoyed people. Huge difference.

Whatever he did sure did work.

[Oluminati]

You don't think Canelo v GGG could fill a stadium in Texas or California?

I think Mayweather v Pac definitely could of.

Nah. I just don't think people want to sit in a stadium where there isn't any real commonality. Stadiums that get filled in America are usually where people are in one accord like college football mainly rooting for one side. AJ had the entire stadium rooting for him. Same for JCC when he filled his stadium against Greg Haugen. I think Floyd-Pac was a television event. Most of Floyd's fanbase rather go to a fight party than see him live or simply want to see him lose. It could've sold out a stadium but wouldn't do AJ in the UK numbers.

Don't get me wrong it can happen in the US, but it'll take a perfect storm where the American has a HUGE grassroots fanbase.

Canelo-GGG would sellout in those places, but that's largely due to the Mexican fanbase which is like the UK fanbase. Try that in the Midwest or the East and you won't get close.

[Kigali]

Floyd and Pac are not on the same level.

McGregor wanted Mayweather because that's where the biggest purse is.....not Pac...not Canelo.

[TheFrog]

Whatever he did sure did work.

You're both right lol
Floyd irritated people to the point where people were paying for the chance of seeing him lose. That's why fights like Mayweather/Guerrero and Mayweather/Berto didn't do the same kind of business as some of Floyds other fights because nobody gave them a snowballs chance in hell.