Comments Thread For: Bellew: Wilder Needs Some Hype Around Him, Never Mind Joshua

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  • THC
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    #31
    Out of all the others, Wilder is frightening, but he needs some hype around him...
    He considers Wilder the biggest risk for Joshua GTFKO but the WBC belt holder needs more hype? WTF

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    • petegrif
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      #32
      People seem to be a bit confused about the commercial side of an AJ Wilder fight.

      This fight has the POTENTIAL to be a gigantic fight. Right now it's a big fight. Some people have made the point that AJ got a huge crowd to see him fight Takim so of course he'd get a big crowd to watch him fight Wilder. It's a fair point. But what it doesn't begin to take into account is how much money the fight against Takim takes in compared with a properly promoted fight against Wilder. Money for a fight comes from many sources but the bigger the fight the bigger the money and that isn't just the people watching in the room. The 'take' depends on 1. audience 2. ticket prices 3 TV revenues worldwide 4 sponsorship deals 5 advertising in and around the fight 6 merchandise etc etc. the audience size isn't the only factor. The bigger the fight, the bigger the hype the more money for everyone. Why do you think Mayweather and MacGregor worked so hard hyping up the fight? Why do you think Wilder is hyping the fight now? ANYTHING a promoter can do to build the fight he will because it's his job to make as much money as he can for himself AND the fighters and that includes Wilder. And btw if you don't think Wilder understands all this perfectly well you are underestimating him.

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      • skinnystev
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        #33
        it's wilder vs fury that boxing fans want joshua is nothing more than a pretender poser wannabee chump who never fought a real champion and never will

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        • ArtyApe
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          #34
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Making the fight bigger by letting the UK fans see Wilder fight makes zero sense?

          Wilder will expect a lot more money than Molina, where's that going to come from if Wilder brings nothing extra?
          You have a point but at the same time having a belt will be enough exposure.

          They sold out stadiums for people who no one really knew so your saying that this fight will do less than that?

          The fight will be billed as two undefeated champions.

          It sells itself

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          • Kigali
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            #35
            Originally posted by NaijaD
            Wilder doesn't need to fight Whyte or anyone to earn a shot at AJ but if he wants to improve the strength of his negotiation stance then he probably should fight Whyte.

            None of Joshua's previous opponents had to earn their shot but those guys also took whatever they were given, Me thinks Wilder won't be satisfied with what those guys got, there is nothing to suggest Wilder is worth more than 20-25% of the pot (even with the WBC belt).... fighting and beating Whyte would boost his UK hype/value tremendously and it's a fight that most would say is winnable although not necessarily easy.
            Whyte looked like trash....fighting him does nothing.

            You just want this fight put-off as long as possible because you know that body-builder gets his ass laid smooth out.

            Didn't you hear that welsh cry-out wilder's name???

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            • uppercut510
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              #36
              Originally posted by robbyheartbaby
              AJ just knocked out Wladimir Klitschko dude, that's more than Wilder has ever done. A fight between the two makes sense but Wilder should go fight Whyte first.
              can u explain why??????? why does wilder need to fight Whyte??? the complaint is that wilder only fights bums so why Whyte and not Joshua? what does the fact Joshua Koed Klits have to do with anything?????

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              • NaijaD
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                #37
                Originally posted by Kigali
                Whyte looked like trash....fighting him does nothing.

                You just want this fight put-off as long as possible because you know that body-builder gets his ass laid smooth out.

                Didn't you hear that welsh cry-out wilder's name???
                I hope the fight happens next cause I'm very confident that Wilder will not see the second half of that fight and if he does then he'll be too battered to do anything other than hope to survive. Wilder shouldn't price himself out.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NaijaD
                  I hope the fight happens next cause I'm very confident that Wilder will not see the second half of that fight and if he does then he'll be too battered to do anything other than hope to survive. Wilder shouldn't price himself out.
                  the second half of a fight with AJ when hes gassed????

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                  • Kigali
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by NaijaD
                    I hope the fight happens next cause I'm very confident that Wilder will not see the second half of that fight and if he does then he'll be too battered to do anything other than hope to survive. Wilder shouldn't price himself out.
                    Your confidence won't help that slow ass body-builder off the canvas.

                    Joshua is slow as a Glacier.

                    Ya'll need to get him out of the UK...that mofo is too slow to call himself a Black man

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                    • OgTripleOg
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sayf
                      Sadly the truth of the matter is the Wilder, despite his title is pretty irrelevant and unknown in the UK so I doubt it would do more. AJ is drawing the casual crowd who would have no idea who Wilder is, they're just turning up to see him knock the next person in line out. The build up will help a little but Wilder is just not a captivating persona, heck he's relatively unknown in the US. The reason being is that he doesn't have a single decent name on his resume. As a boxing connoisseur this is the only really interesting matchup in the HW division right now, but Wilder's obscurity is what's stopping Hearn at the moment.

                      People are getting it twisted thinking that Hearn and AJ want him to fight Whyte to "earn the right" to fight AJ. If I was Hearn I'd demand the same thing, because it's known if it was held in the UK with Wilder achieving a spectacular knockout it would instantly raise his profile and make both him and AJ an absolute truck load of money.

                      It's all business at the end of the day, leaving aside any fanboyism, that I'm not particular partial to, it makes financial sense. Wilder would make millions fighting Whyte and then WAY more fighting AJ.

                      TL;DR Money talks, beating Whyte then fighting AJ would make Wilder earn more than double or treble all his previous fights put together.
                      This is that bull***** that casuals say, stop making boxing look bad when you guys say this *****. Wtf does any of that matter as a fan of boxing? We already know a fight will make more money if you "let it marinate" just look at May/Pac Canelo/GGG I didn't see anyone trying to say "let it marinate" when those fights were supposed to be made. We want to see an undisputed champion, we don't give a fcuk about how much $$ is involved cause at the end of the day I'm not getting any of it so why should I care? Stop with those weak ass excuses man its so lame and makes you look dumb.

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