Comments Thread For: Bellew: Wilder Needs Some Hype Around Him, Never Mind Joshua

[Kigali]

This makes zero sense you know that right.

Did molina have uk public appeal?

Did breazeale?

Wilder has a belt atleast.

The Whyte fight is just a way for hearn to prop up the Aj aura.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a wilder fan, but I'm starting to think the windmills are on to something here lol

Plus if Aj gonna beat him anyway why not?

Since when did belt holders have to fight for the right to fight other belt holders

Robbie just got stomped.

[OgTripleOg]

People act like they don't know who Wilder is when they talk about AJ lol

[TyrantT316]

Some of you all are sounding like the promoters we condemn. "Let it marinate.."

Yeah, let's wait until both are in the mid 30s, all or nothing, no hope of a rematch, with losses on their records, etc.

There's no better time than now. I think people underestimate the money to be made when two fighters are prime and ready. Rather than trying to build up the fight for 2-4 years while risking everything that makes the fight compelling right now.

[NaijaD]

Wilder doesn't need to fight Whyte or anyone to earn a shot at AJ but if he wants to improve the strength of his negotiation stance then he probably should fight Whyte.

None of Joshua's previous opponents had to earn their shot but those guys also took whatever they were given, Me thinks Wilder won't be satisfied with what those guys got, there is nothing to suggest Wilder is worth more than 20-25% of the pot (even with the WBC belt).... fighting and beating Whyte would boost his UK hype/value tremendously and it's a fight that most would say is winnable although not necessarily easy.

[TyrantT316]

Fighting and beating Whyte is not about proving Wilder "deserves" AJ. Wilder's been champ longer than AJ. Yes AJ's Wlad win was much better than any of Wilder's wins. However, that to me doesn't automatically make AJ some King that can ask Wilder to fight the guys AJ wants him to fight to "earn" a shot.

Neither man is "the man". They need to fight each other to prove that.

[sayf]

So the fight needs hype for what? Aj n Takam sold 78k. Wilder in Aj can do 100k in Wembley if they add another 10k. No hyping needed but dam this resume bs talk is old. He's a Champ lol wtf. It sounds like you're a matchroom guy. No real true boxing fan will truly agree with this way of thinking. Sells out yesterday but needs to fight Aj left overs lol. So obvious what's REALLY going on.

Sadly the truth of the matter is the Wilder, despite his title is pretty irrelevant and unknown in the UK so I doubt it would do more. AJ is drawing the casual crowd who would have no idea who Wilder is, they're just turning up to see him knock the next person in line out. The build up will help a little but Wilder is just not a captivating persona, heck he's relatively unknown in the US. The reason being is that he doesn't have a single decent name on his resume. As a boxing connoisseur this is the only really interesting matchup in the HW division right now, but Wilder's obscurity is what's stopping Hearn at the moment.

People are getting it twisted thinking that Hearn and AJ want him to fight Whyte to "earn the right" to fight AJ. If I was Hearn I'd demand the same thing, because it's known if it was held in the UK with Wilder achieving a spectacular knockout it would instantly raise his profile and make both him and AJ an absolute truck load of money.

It's all business at the end of the day, leaving aside any fanboyism, that I'm not particular partial to, it makes financial sense. Wilder would make millions fighting Whyte and then WAY more fighting AJ.

TL;DR Money talks, beating Whyte then fighting AJ would make Wilder earn more than double or treble all his previous fights put together.

[kushking]

Sadly the truth of the matter is the Wilder, despite his title is pretty irrelevant and unknown in the UK so I doubt it would do more. AJ is drawing the casual crowd who would have no idea who Wilder is, they're just turning up to see him knock the next person in line out. The build up will help a little but Wilder is just not a captivating persona, heck he's relatively unknown in the US. The reason being is that he doesn't have a single decent name on his resume. As a boxing connoisseur this is the only really interesting matchup in the HW division right now, but Wilder's obscurity is what's stopping Hearn at the moment.

People are getting it twisted thinking that Hearn and AJ want him to fight Whyte to "earn the right" to fight AJ. If I was Hearn I'd demand the same thing, because it's known if it was held in the UK with Wilder achieving a spectacular knockout it would instantly raise his profile and make both him and AJ an absolute truck load of money.

It's all business at the end of the day, leaving aside any fanboyism, that I'm not particular partial to, it makes financial sense. Wilder would make millions fighting Whyte and then WAY more fighting AJ.

TL;DR Money talks, beating Whyte then fighting AJ would make Wilder earn more than double or treble all his previous fights put together.

what a bunch of rediculous fanboi spin,stop trying to justify the blatant ducking.

[Robbie Barrett]

This makes zero sense you know that right.

Did molina have uk public appeal?

Did breazeale?

Wilder has a belt atleast.

The Whyte fight is just a way for hearn to prop up the Aj aura.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a wilder fan, but I'm starting to think the windmills are on to something here lol

Plus if Aj gonna beat him anyway why not?

Since when did belt holders have to fight for the right to fight other belt holders

Making the fight bigger by letting the UK fans see Wilder fight makes zero sense?

Wilder will expect a lot more money than Molina, where's that going to come from if Wilder brings nothing extra?

[RussB23]

Bellew could probably outbox wilder

[The Gambler1981]

Getting the fight bigger makes perfect sense, and honestly it has nothing to do with fights because the guys can really fight anyone as long as they don't lose at this point, the die is caste for this fight the only thing left is what they mint the fight out of.


Time is a key factor in building a fight because, a lot of fight interest is driven by fans talking about the fight. this fight is already getting talked about a lot just look at how many articles are on this site and how much talk is going on about this fight here. People have already made their minds up about both men either they think Wilder is a tough fight for Joshua who has positive attributes that will give him problems or he is some clown just waiting not get knocked out, or Joshua is a superman who has no equal on Earth or he is a stiff robot bum with stamina issue that may be juicing.

So both guys generate opinions in fans, all boxing fans know these two and basically casual fans start to get excited when boxing fans really get excited for a fight and this goes doubly so for heavyweights.

So while they may delay the fight to get fans talking and really get a head of steam built up in the boxing public about the fight as long as either guys doesn't blow it they fight fairly soon I would say within one year but this being boxing that could extend out to like 18 months.