If you can eliminate one weight division, what would it be?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #61
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Don't take it too extremes bro. I'm not saying no little guy can hit. I'm saying wayyyyyyy more lil guys can't KO guys like bigger guys can. And that insures fights can't end suddenly more often than not. That makes the action & everything that happens potentially more dramatic or less dramatic for the lil guys...again for most people.

    I mean thats why people get so excited for big HW fights cuz those things can end on a dime & its damn near another sport cuz I'd agree with you they are the least skilled boxers (To go into sci fi fantasyland lets shrink down Joshua & Wilder to 147lbs or down to one of your lil guy divisions & lets see how well lil Joshua & lil Wilder do lmfao), but people love them more all else being equal (if there was a HW version of Floyd he'd crush Floyd's PPV records I have zero doubt).

    But hell man I really like Higa, but he's not the average lil guy & I'd argue whatever his legacy in boxing ends up being it'll be lesser than it should be cuz there are too many lil guy divisions so the best lil guys barely ever fight each other. And I'm talking in the same division. Higa isn't likely to ever become the undisputed champion cuz those guys almost never unify belts. Thats cuz there are too many lil guy divisions that aren't appealing & lack the depth those divisions to get more mainstream attention.

    Talk to 100 boxing fans on a site like this. Most won't know more than 1 or 2 champions & virtually no one will know even one contender at or below 122lbs without looking it up. Thats 6 f#cking divisions most boxing fans don't care about & barely seem to know about. Over one third of the divisions are dedicated to guys most cats don't even know lol. How ****** is that? That says something about those divisions entertainment level & appeal to most people.

    So okay its subjective, but hell everything is subjective if you wanna say so. That doesn't mean there isn't a waste of divisions on lil guys & a destruction of lil guys legacies in the sports cuz they are spread out so far. Everyone should know about Ricardo Lopez (among my favorite all time fighters), everyone should know about a lot of lil guys. Maybe everyone should know about Daigo Higa (we shall see over the next several years), but they won't cuz his accomplishments will be diluted in all these divisions most don't give a f#ck about nor should they cuz there isn't as much entertainment going on there as there could be with the top guys fighting each other. You need a even higher level of competition in the lil guy divisions than there is.

    Thats just a fact as I see it. And a lot of that involves consolidating some of those lil guy divisions. If you are a fan of lil guy divisions you should love it more than you love it now. It'd be the best fighting the best more often then they do now. Who can argue against that when its needed as badly as it is when ~33% of pro boxers (the lil guys) take up ~50% of the divisions?
    I actually feel there's more competitive fights in the lower weight classes than there is up at HW. I mean how many real competitive HW title fights has there been over the last 10 years? Your right when you say a lot of great fighters from lower weights don't get the credit they deserve over there careers but this is due more to lack of exposure and lack of promotion IMO. The Superfly card on HBO has proven these guys can be a ratings hit with the right promotion. Your right when you say many people do not know all the champions, contenders or top fighters in these division's but as far as I'm concerned that's their loss. If people don't want to watch these guys or can't appreciate their ability it's their loss, I'll continue to watch them regardless. I definitely believe it comes down to personal preference, the majority of people would rather watch HW fights and that's fine, but I've always preferred the lower weight classes. I just simply find the fights more enjoyable than HW fights.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Vlad_
      I would drop cruiser to 190lbs, make heavy at 210lbs and superheavy at 240lbs and plus.
      NOOOOOOOOOO it would destroy both 190 and 210 it would just be a quick pitstop to gather another title.The heavy's just got big enough for the cruiser's in my op cant really compete.So their stickin around a little more and now with this tourney they might start getting some love from the networks.I hate that WBC is thinkin about makin another div at 210 or so.If anything they could use a div in between 175-200.maybe 185 and move cruiser MAYBE up to 205

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        #63
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        I actually feel there's more competitive fights in the lower weight classes than there is up at HW. I mean how many real competitive HW title fights has there been over the last 10 years? Your right when you say a lot of great fighters from lower weights don't get the credit they deserve over there careers but this is due more to lack of exposure and lack of promotion IMO. The Superfly card on HBO has proven these guys can be a ratings hit with the right promotion. Your right when you say many people do not know all the champions, contenders or top fighters in these division's but as far as I'm concerned that's their loss. If people don't want to watch these guys or can't appreciate their ability it's their loss, I'll continue to watch them regardless. I definitely believe it comes down to personal preference, the majority of people would rather watch HW fights and that's fine, but I've always preferred the lower weight classes. I just simply find the fights more enjoyable than HW fights.
        Could not agree more I think 147-160 is about best. But I love the little guys too.

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          #64
          Originally posted by john l
          Could not agree more I think 147-160 is about best. But I love the little guys too.
          My favourite division's are usually 160 and 175 but at the moment 115 is my current favourite.

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            #65
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            My favourite division's are usually 160 and 175 but at the moment 115 is my current favourite.
            yea that and 154(even with some of the guys who have moved up)are the best and deepest div imo

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              #66
              Whats up rjj goat you need some karma.guy with your knowledge should not be walkin around with just 1-2 greens

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                #67
                would not let me again right now

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by john l
                  yea that and 154(even with some of the guys who have moved up)are the best and deepest div imo
                  Yeah 154 is pretty stacked, hopefully the right fights get made

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                    #69
                    Definitely 154. It's a useless division.
                    Top fighters don't even have decency to ask why most of them are all still left standing after all these years.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by john l
                      Whats up rjj goat you need some karma.guy with your knowledge should not be walkin around with just 1-2 greens
                      Appreciate the support bro. I think messing around with the AJ fanboys tends to hurt my karma. 😂😂

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