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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #41
    Povetkin movement is lacking! If he improves his movement, he may have a chance up against Joshua! Povetkin proved that he has decent punch resistance up against Wladimir Kiltschko! (I just wonder if Anthony Joshua's punching power is being found out at elite level, Carlos Takam is probably the first elite level tough guy he has faced! Wladimir Kiltschko was a tougher fighter than a lot of people like to make out but? He was not renowned for his physical & psychological robustness!)...
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    • Raggamuffin
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      #42
      Headvetkin is a drug cheat. ****en General Zod world engine head. He can only win fights on PEDs. That's why he's always getting caught.

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        #43
        Originally posted by RedZmaja
        Joshua seems to have a problem with durable short fighters who can move their head and make him miss and work hard. If Takam was giving him problems Povetkin would demolish him with ease and put him away late.

        Let's face it, Povetkin is the best HW right now. Of course, Joshua will never fight him and will duck him just like Wilder did.
        Brilliant thread! I totally agree!

        So far, the facts are, Alexander Povetkin has beaten common opponents and similar caliber opposition more convincingly than Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder have.

        For example, Alexander Povetkin knocked out and subseqently beat Carlos Takam more convincingly than Anthony Joshua did.

        Likewise, Alexander Povetkin knocked out Johan Duhapas quicker, more brutally and subsequently more convincingly beat him than Deontay Wilder did. He also knocked out Mike Perez in just one round, whilst Deontay Wilder took 9 rounds to KO Artur Szpilka. Consider that Mike Perez and Artur Szpilka are both the same level of boxers (Mike Perez's record is marginally better).

        So again, this only proves that Wilder and Anthony Joshua aren't as good as many seem to think here. They are anything but the undisputed best heavyweights. In addition to looking less impressive, dominant and convincing in their victories against common / similar level of opposition, their resume also don't stack up to Povetkin's either. Alexander Povetkin has arguably the best resume in the last 5 or 6 years of the heavyweight division. Only Wladimir Klitschko's might be better.

        As for PED's, there is no evidence that Meldonium does anything drastic to improve punching power by that much, if at all. Since that's all they really found in him, which are just traces of Meldonium when it was still legal.

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        • Gojira
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          #44
          Glad this thread got made. Beforehand I actually thought styles made fights

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          • RedZmaja
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            #45
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin
            Headvetkin is a drug cheat. ****en General Zod world engine head. He can only win fights on PEDs. That's why he's always getting caught.
            This is the most ridiculous excuse. Everyone is on steroids in the HW division. There isn't a clean elite fighter out there. Povetkin got caught because anti-doping agencies target the Russians hard due to political reasons.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Ganstaz003
              Brilliant thread! I totally agree!

              So far, the facts are, Alexander Povetkin has beaten common opponents and similar caliber opposition more convincingly than Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder have.

              For example, Alexander Povetkin knocked out and subseqently beat Carlos Takam more convincingly than Anthony Joshua did.

              Likewise, Alexander Povetkin knocked out Johan Duhapas quicker, more brutally and subsequently more convincingly beat him than Deontay Wilder did. He also knocked out Mike Perez in just one round, whilst Deontay Wilder took 9 rounds to KO Artur Szpilka. Consider that Mike Perez and Artur Szpilka are both the same level of boxers (Mike Perez's record is marginally better).

              So again, this only proves that Wilder and Anthony Joshua aren't as good as many seem to think here. They are anything but the undisputed best heavyweights. In addition to looking less impressive, dominant and convincing in their victories against common / similar level of opposition, their resume also don't stack up to Povetkin's either. Alexander Povetkin has arguably the best resume in the last 5 or 6 years of the heavyweight division. Only Wladimir Klitschko's might be better.

              As for PED's, there is no evidence that Meldonium does anything drastic to improve punching power by that much, if at all. Since that's all they really found in him, which are just traces of Meldonium when it was still legal.
              No evidence that Meldonium helps you? Then why is it on the banned substance list and why did he pass and then fail and then later pass testing and why did he take Ostarine?

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                #47
                I agree. Povetkin is extremely dangerous. I think he would have KO'd Wilder and I'd pick him doing the same to AJ.

                Too bad the guy is a cheat. I'd rather him never get a fight again.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RedZmaja
                  This is the most ridiculous excuse. Everyone is on steroids in the HW division. There isn't a clean elite fighter out there. Povetkin got caught because anti-doping agencies target the Russians hard due to political reasons.
                  Everyone is on steroids? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Political reasons? The Headvetkin fans have risen from the dead. The dead were awakened using Meldonium and Ostarine lol.

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                  • RedZmaja
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ganstaz003
                    Brilliant thread! I totally agree!

                    So far, the facts are, Alexander Povetkin has beaten common opponents and similar caliber opposition more convincingly than Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder have.
                    Also, Povetkin has a much better chin too. He took Klitschko's best shots and kept fighting. Joshua barely survived and was almost out. Granted, Povetkin did lose to Klitschko but Klitschko and his jab-and-grab is all wrong for Povetkin style-wise. That was also a much better version of Klitschko that Povetkin fought. I'm pretty sure that 2013 Klitschko would UD the current Joshua easily. He was in much better shape back then and didn't have ring rust from a 1 year lay off.

                    It's such a shame that we didn't get to see Wilder vs Povetkin in early 2016 as it was planned, that fight would have answered a lot of questions about the HW division and it would have a lot of significance for the entire era.

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      No evidence that Meldonium helps you? Then why is it on the banned substance list and why did he pass and then fail and then later pass testing and why did he take Ostarine?
                      Why is Meldonium on the banned substance list? Ask the ones who banned Meldonium. Also ask them to provide evidence that it improves someone's performance that much, compared to the other legal PED's out there, to the point where it warrants a ban. I don't blindly follow decisions. I've seen no evidence so far that Meldonium is any more beneficial than other legal PED's out there like Creatine, caffeine and so forth so on.

                      As for Ostarine, he consumed it after Bermane Stiverne was caught taking drugs first. So you'd rather see Povetkin fight Stiverne whilst being clean whilst Stiverne is on the juice? Somehow, if Povetkin takes it to even the playing field, it's meant to be a bad thing?

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