Povetkin would destroy Joshua

[RedZmaja]

Everyone is on steroids?

Every single one of them. Do you want to see clean fighters? Watch some regional amateur tournaments but even there you can find some users.

People who think there is a single clean elite fighter out there are incredibly naive. It's impossible to train and fight in boxing at that level and not take anything, especially for guys who are over 30.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Everyone is on steroids? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Political reasons? The Headvetkin fans have risen from the dead. The dead were awakened using Meldonium and Ostarine lol.

This is the 21st century we're living in. Practically everyone, even non-athletes living in 1st world countries are chemically enhanced via consuming things full of articial checmicals. Who gives a crap if a boxer or athlete is taking drugs? Why should it matter? This isn't a natural world anymore. 'Natural athlete' in the modern world is one of the biggest myths that exists today.

[RedZmaja]

I agree. Povetkin is extremely dangerous. I think he would have KO'd Wilder and I'd pick him doing the same to AJ.

Too bad the guy is a cheat. I'd rather him never get a fight again.

Every single relevant fighter is on steroids, everyone is "cheating". That's the most ******ed reason for not liking a fighter.

Also, boxing -just like all elite sports- is a simulation of war. There is no cheating in wars, only winning and losing.

Fighters NEED to take PEDs, it's the nature of the sport. If there were no PEDs in the sport half of those guys would be injured all the time and the other half would look like ****. The guys would have to move up weight classes too because they wouldn't be able to have these drastic weightcuts anymore.

Boxing without PEDs would be complete crap of a sport, it would be like traveling back in time to 1920 when the men's 100m sprint record was like 10.6 seconds.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Also, Povetkin has a much better chin too. He took Klitschko's best shots and kept fighting. Joshua barely survived and was almost out. Granted, Povetkin did lose to Klitschko but Klitschko and his jab-and-grab is all wrong for Povetkin style-wise. That was also a much better version of Klitschko that Povetkin fought. I'm pretty sure that 2013 Klitschko would UD the current Joshua easily. He was in much better shape back then and didn't have ring rust from a 1 year lay off.

It's such a shame that we didn't get to see Wilder vs Povetkin in early 2016 as it was planned, that fight would have answered a lot of questions about the HW division and it would have a lot of significance for the entire era.

I think many of the boxers from Klitschko's era defeat Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder as well. Heck, prime Povetkin in my opinion stops both Joshua and Wilder within the distance. He stops Wilder in 4 rounds and probably takes 11 rounds against Joshua. Never mind comparing prime Klitschko against either.

You're right, Povetkin has one of the best punch resistance in boxing today. He was never even dropped, prior to fighting Wlad and Wlad only dropped him once legitimately. The rest were throw downs from grappling. Also, contrary to popular belief, I don't think Joshua hits anywhere near as powerfully as some seem to think here. Certainly doesn't look like he has the single punch power of Wladimir Klitschko. Not even close!

[RedZmaja]

I think many of the boxers from Klitschko's era defeat Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder as well. Heck, prime Povetkin in my opinion stops both Joshua and Wilder within the distance. He stops Wilder in 4 rounds and probably takes 11 rounds against Joshua. Never mind comparing prime Klitschko against either.

You're right, Povetkin has one of the best punch resistance in boxing today. He was never even dropped, prior to fighting Wlad and Wlad only dropped him once legitimately. The rest were throw downs from grappling. Also, contrary to popular belief, I don't think Joshua hits anywhere near as powerfully as some seem to think here. Certainly doesn't look like he has the single punch power of Wladimir Klitschko. Not even close!

David Haye in his prime before his body broke down was a legitimate threat too IMO. I wouldn't be so sure if Joshua or Wilder could neutralize a prime David Haye circa 2010. Let's face it, Haye has a solid chin on him and would be hard to stop, he could take some shots to try and land something big. Joshua's jab would definitely be easier to counter for him than Wlad's.

[Mr Objecitivity]

David Haye in his prime before his body broke down was a legitimate threat too IMO. I wouldn't be so sure if Joshua or Wilder could neutralize a prime David Haye circa 2010. Let's face it, Haye has a solid chin on him and would be hard to stop, he could take some shots to try and land something big. Joshua's jab would definitely be easier to counter for him than Wlad's.

For sure, I'm surprised I forgot to mention David Haye. Add in the likes of Samuel Peter and perhaps Ruslan Chagaev to that list as well. All three of them have solid chances of beating both Wilder and Joshua. In fact, I would make Peter and Haye to be the favorites against both during their prime.

[Sun_Tzu]

Ill agree with the RedZmaja, they are all juicing and I dont care. I say let em take whatever they want..fck it.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Ill agree with the RedZmaja, they are all juicing and I dont care. I say let em take whatever they want..fck it.

This pretty much! Totally agree! Nearly everyone is chemically enhanced in the modern world in 1st world countries, not just athletes. So who cares? Why is it such a big deal?

[Mammoth]

I agree. Povetkin is extremely dangerous. I think he would have KO'd Wilder and I'd pick him doing the same to AJ.

Too bad the guy is a cheat. I'd rather him never get a fight again.

Povetkin vs Ortiz. Then they can both retire.

[Raggamuffin]

Why is Meldonium on the banned substance list? Ask the ones who banned Meldonium. Also ask them to provide evidence that it improves someone's performance that much, compared to the other legal PED's out there, to the point where it warrants a ban. I don't blindly follow decisions. I've seen no evidence so far that Meldonium is any more beneficial than other legal PED's out there like Creatine, caffeine and so forth so on.

As for Ostarine, he consumed it after Bermane Stiverne was caught taking drugs first. So you'd rather see Povetkin fight Stiverne whilst being clean whilst Stiverne is on the juice? Somehow, if Povetkin takes it to even the playing field, it's meant to be a bad thing?

Meldonium is on the "banned substance" list. And wtf are you trying to lie about, lmao...!!!???