Do people seriously believe Floyd Mayweather Jr could beat Gennady Golovkin at 160?

[HarvardBlue]

This is not an evaluation of who is more skilled P4P. Or who would win if they were the same size. Instead, it is about who would actually win at 160 pounds if they actually fought each other.

Floyd Mayweather Jr's skills are definitely at an ATG level. However, there comes a point where someone is simply too big in size, to the point where being more skilled isn't going to be enough to beat them. Not only does one have to be more skilled than that bigger sized opponent, but they have to be more skilled by a significant margin. Irrespective of what some would state by exaggerating, both are elite boxers and neither are significantly more skilled than the other and that slight skill gap (assuming it exists) for Mayweather isn't going to be enough for Mayweather to beat Golovkin due to being much smaller and weaker physically.

If Golovkin could walk through Kell Brook's most powerful punches, a guy who is physically bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd Mayweather Jr and could throw and land punches without being discouraged, then Floyd Mayweather simply can't effect GGG enough to deter him.

Canelo Alvarez had the power, size and strength to at least make GGG slightly more cautious from going absolutely berserk. However, if Golovkin could just walk through Mayweather's punches and go beserk on Floyd Mayweather Jr by throwing non - stop power punches, then Floyd Mayweather Jr's skill advantage becomes irrelevant because the bout would no longer be decided by skills.

Most of Mayweather's opponents can walk through his punches. The difficulty in facing Mayweather is him being able to time his opponents vs his opponents being able to time him. Golovkin has a big problem with opponents that can move directionally or use a lot a feints. Canelo was able to make him miss with the slightest upper body movement. The fight would probably look like the second Maidana fight where Mayweather would move the whole fight and walk Golovkin into scoring blows. Golovkin would have about the same chance everyone else have and that's to land one big shot. He won't be able to land enough to put Mayweather away.

[Scipio2009]

This is not an evaluation of who is more skilled P4P. Or who would win if they were the same size. Instead, it is about who would actually win at 160 pounds if they actually fought each other.

Floyd Mayweather Jr's skills are definitely at an ATG level. However, there comes a point where someone is simply too big in size, to the point where being more skilled isn't going to be enough to beat them. Not only does one have to be more skilled than that bigger sized opponent, but they have to be more skilled by a significant margin. Irrespective of what some would state by exaggerating, both are elite boxers and neither are significantly more skilled than the other and that slight skill gap (assuming it exists) for Mayweather isn't going to be enough for Mayweather to beat Golovkin due to being much smaller and weaker physically.

If Golovkin could walk through Kell Brook's most powerful punches, a guy who is physically bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd Mayweather Jr and could throw and land punches without being discouraged, then Floyd Mayweather simply can't effect GGG enough to deter him.

Canelo Alvarez had the power, size and strength to at least make GGG slightly more cautious from going absolutely berserk. However, if Golovkin could just walk through Mayweather's punches and go beserk on Floyd Mayweather Jr by throwing non - stop power punches, then Floyd Mayweather Jr's skill advantage becomes irrelevant because the bout would no longer be decided by skills.

Floyd's never going to punch his way through Golovkin, but Golovkin's performances against folks like Kell Brook, Daniel Jacobs, Saul Alvarez, and even Willie Monroe Jr and Gabe Rosado in spots, more than prove that Golovkin is there to be out boxed and outfoxed.

Golovkin is about the size of Saul Alvarez (maybe a bit bigger, tbh) and Floyd had no issue managing Alvarez's size.

If Golovkin really does come to the table with your berzerker plan, a style that almost has no reflection to how he actually fights, he punches himself out in 4/5 rounds and then Floyd is left with dealing with a tired fighter who's about the size of what Canelo was. Easy work

[uppercut510]

if he can avoid getting hit with a hard clean shot on the chin he has a chance, a good chance

[boliodogs]

As you can plainly see by the responses there are lots of posters who believe Mayweather could still beat GGG at 160 even at age 41. Mayweather was a great fighter no doubt. From what I saw of him against Conor his great days are long gone and he just barely makes good fighter level. He could no longer beat Spence, Crawford or Thurman in my opinion. I think Canelo or GGG would quickly KO today's Mayweather. A few years ago GGG offered to fight Mayweather at a weight limit of 154 when Mayweather held two world titles at that weight. I believe GGG would have knocked him out if Mayweather had accepted his challenge. I think even a prime Mayweather would get KOed by GGG.Mayweather is a great welterweight while GGG is a great middleweight. The idea that GGG would never land hard punches is ridiculous. A good left jab is one of the best weapons against Mayweather and GGG has an accurate and powerful left jab that he lands often on everyone he ever fought. Mayweather has a great defense but he still got hit by boxers less skilled than GGG. Mayweather probably would make GGG miss a lot of punches. So what? GGG would still land enough punches to knock him out. If they were the same natural weight Mayweather might win but he can't spot a great middleweight KO artist 13 pounds and survive.

[buddyr]

mayweather would get stopped at 160. People need to stop the bs. At 154, mayweather outpoints him in a fight that GGG would be too drained to do anything. At 160, he'd walked thru Floyd's punches for rounds with not fear of getting hurt until the ko occurs. Floyd knows this too

[john l]

Who cares?? Floys is a WW... And prime Floyd (who I'm not a fan of), I wouldn't be surprised if he would beat GGG...

Floyd not even a ww really 130-135 was nat weight.if Floyd fought ggg that would be 6th div 4 him and ggg natural one

[john l]

As you can plainly see by the responses there are lots of posters who believe Mayweather could still beat GGG at 160 even at age 41. Mayweather was a great fighter no doubt. From what I saw of him against Conor his great days are long gone and he just barely makes good fighter level. He could no longer beat Spence, Crawford or Thurman in my opinion. I think Canelo or GGG would quickly KO today's Mayweather. A few years ago GGG offered to fight Mayweather at a weight limit of 154 when Mayweather held two world titles at that weight. I believe GGG would have knocked him out if Mayweather had accepted his challenge. I think even a prime Mayweather would get KOed by GGG.Mayweather is a great welterweight while GGG is a great middleweight. The idea that GGG would never land hard punches is ridiculous. A good left jab is one of the best weapons against Mayweather and GGG has an accurate and powerful left jab that he lands often on everyone he ever fought. Mayweather has a great defense but he still got hit by boxers less skilled than GGG. Mayweather probably would make GGG miss a lot of punches. So what? GGG would still land enough punches to knock him out. If they were the same natural weight Mayweather might win but he can't spot a great middleweight KO artist 13 pounds and survive.

I believe if they were same weight naturaly or even close Floyd would beat him all day.but that being said a 37-38[about the time people started to talk about this fight] year old Floyd whose nat weight was 130-135.would not have beat ggg.buts that's like sayin ggg could not beat olek usyk

[john l]

if he can avoid getting hit with a hard clean shot on the chin he has a chance, a good chance

I don't think so anymore.floyd looked his age last time out

[GMAN SUPREME]

nope. golovkin wins by ko at 154 or 160. gayweather jr gets slaughtered.

[djtmal]

floyd could have made this fight...he thought it was more safer to say ain't nuthing to the dude and hide behind a bogus retirement...