Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol: Badou Jack Gave Me His Belt, I Want The Rest!

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  • My Low Place
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    #21
    Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
    The juice wasn't worth the squeeze for Jack to fight Bivol. Bivol looks to potentially be a tough fight and had little to no name recognition which translates to little financial compensation. I think Jack would prefer to fight Stevenson or maybe even Kovalev. I highly doubt fear has anything to do with it, just cost benefit analysis.

    Regarding Bivol, he looks promising but we haven't seen him against a live opponent. Clarkson and Agnew didn't want to be in that ring with him. I'd like to see Bivol against someone who goes in there to win or face some adversity to get a better idea of who he is as a fighter.
    had nothing to do with it..eddie hearn made jack drop the wba belt that he won from cleverly...i was in the agreement for jack to even get the cleverly fight...if u follow bivol u'd actually know why eddie did it...bivol statd he was nto ready for championship level..it was a good move by eddie, but a bs move for all the fans...if anyone ducked it was bivol by way of his management

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    • My Low Place
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      #22
      Originally posted by Kiowhatta
      I have a hard time believing Jack did a Canelo on Bivol, I like Jack, not exactly a huge fan, but he's showed up for tough fights before.

      It was probably a case of sitting down and crunching the numbers, looking at alternatives and seeing an easier route to bigger pay-days.

      As a fan, I think this would be an incredible matchup, with both guys having a come forward style, like to **** and have good skills. Would have been a cracker. Maybe they'll meet in a unification bout down the line (hopefully Jack or somebody gets rid of that pest Stevenson).
      read the comments of this...one guy explains what eddie hearn made jack agree to before even getting the cleverly fight..i've explained it as well...

      basically it was on the contract for him to drop the title..if he keeps it eddie either gets options on him or can sue him..

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        #23
        Originally posted by Bobby Deez
        Produce the evidence or stfu. until proven otherwise Jack ducked a fighter with 11 pro fights.
        the evidence doesnt have to be produced for you..who tf are you.. a mf'n guy that cant do his own research so he gets cheeky when ppl kno more than him?? fuggin chap

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          #24
          Originally posted by Bobby Deez
          Produce the evidence or stfu. until proven otherwise Jack ducked a fighter with 11 pro fights.
          So who is Bivil avoiding. If Jack was so scared that he'd give him the belt. Why is Bivol fighting a nobody. He's the champ that Jack ducked right? He already has the belt but he didnt offer to fight anyone good. Jack dropping the belt was definitely not to avoid Bivol, he wants to test himself against the best not a prospect.

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          • Bobby Deez
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            #25
            Originally posted by My Low Place
            the evidence doesnt have to be produced for you..who tf are you.. a mf'n guy that cant do his own research so he gets cheeky when ppl kno more than him?? fuggin chap
            So you just makin up **** then. You duckin the truth just like Jack is ducking a dude with 11 fights. Now kick rocks with yo ***** ass

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            • Sledgeweather17
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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxing42
              Jack would stomp bivol,he's going for big fights! Jack obviously doesn't want To downgrade and fight a prospect when he can fight a stevenson
              Jack is ducking Bivol plain and simple. Stevenson is not available, he has a mandatory defense with Alvarez, so that excuse is lame AF.

              Badou could have fought Bivol for the WBA super champion title while Stevenson takes care of Alvarez and then unified with Stevenson afterwards.

              That would have marinated the fight perfectly and their schedules would align perfectly as well. The fight becomes bigger because instead of a voluntary defense against a nobody it becomes a unification bout between two champions.

              Instead, while Stevenson will be risking his title against a young, hungry, unbeaten lion, Badou Jack is busy ducking one himself and simply waiting to be given a free shot at the title.

              Then people gonna blame Stevenson when he overlooks this clown and fights someone else because why should he do all the work while this clown sits on his ass and ducks title opportunities?

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              • Zenkai
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                #27
                Sledgeweather nailed it

                This is a blantant duck by Badou Jack.

                Lame af

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                • PBR Streetgang
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                  #28
                  “They’re working on something big, so I just got to stay patient,” Jack said to ESPN.com. “It was part of the agreement for us even getting the fight with Cleverly that we had to vacate it after we won. I’m not ducking a guy who has 11 fights. Look at the guys I have fought. My promoter is looking for bigger and better things for me,” Jack said."

                  It had everything to do with it. Like I said, I don't think Jack was ducking Bivol. He was looking for bigger and better fights as he stated above. Was it part of the agreement for him to vacate so he could fight Clev? Yes. I never disputed that. Jack was willing to vacate because he wants your boy Stevenson....he doesn't want to be bothered by fights with guys like Bivol that don't offer much in reward but come potentially high with risk.



                  Originally posted by My Low Place
                  had nothing to do with it..eddie hearn made jack drop the wba belt that he won from cleverly...i was in the agreement for jack to even get the cleverly fight...if u follow bivol u'd actually know why eddie did it...bivol statd he was nto ready for championship level..it was a good move by eddie, but a bs move for all the fans...if anyone ducked it was bivol by way of his management

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                  • Kigali
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                    Jack is ducking Bivol plain and simple. Stevenson is not available, he has a mandatory defense with Alvarez, so that excuse is lame AF.

                    Badou could have fought Bivol for the WBA super champion title while Stevenson takes care of Alvarez and then unified with Stevenson afterwards.

                    That would have marinated the fight perfectly and their schedules would align perfectly as well. The fight becomes bigger because instead of a voluntary defense against a nobody it becomes a unification bout between two champions.

                    Instead, while Stevenson will be risking his title against a young, hungry, unbeaten lion, Badou Jack is busy ducking one himself and simply waiting to be given a free shot at the title.

                    Then people gonna blame Stevenson when he overlooks this clown and fights someone else because why should he do all the work while this clown sits on his ass and ducks title opportunities?
                    Stop it.

                    You sound like a fool.

                    Jack vacated his title as part of the agreement to get Cleverly in the ring.

                    Bivol is absolutely nothing to duck.

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                    • Kigali
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by My Low Place
                      u're solid on this bru...i'm up on this as well..these fools here will still try to contest you tho..and it's been confirmed by eddie and jack...
                      Ducking Bivol

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